agreed cltblk....u can throw Miami in that group as well...and yes as i posted above it does happen in every city...just alot more here....its pretty simple that with more years here in Charlotte and more tradition , the Bobcats will see less and less of this....thats a long term fix...but in the short term i think its as simple as winning games...the more diehard Bobcats fans and even the novice or bandwagon fans that start to show up when we start winning more just means that less and less tickets will be available which in turn means less opposing fans at the game