3.2.1. Boom! Kemba talk. (From BB thread)

[Chef]

Kemba needs to become a better distributor if he's ever going to become an elite point guard. Too many of his assists are a result of just dominating the ball and not actually running an offense to the benefit of his teammates. He's got the ability to be a really good scoring point guard, but right now his trajectory is looking something like the next Jason Terry or a poor man's Allen Iverson.

major argument starting in 3...2...1

[spectre]

Oh look, Chef has found a friend!

[Bogg]

Hey, Kemba's the whole reason I'm following the Bobcats, but there are two things that are undeniably true: Kemba's primarily a scoring point guard, and Kemba's not a franchise-level offensive talent. I honestly think the guy could win a sixth man of the year award down the line, but if Charlotte wants to be a playoff squad in a few years they're going to need to get better offensive talent, and Kemba's gonna have to be able to at least defer to those players. If he's going to truly be an elite point guard, he's going to have to make these theoretical players better while also getting his own offense. As it is, he only does one of those things.

[Chef]

Hey, Kemba's the whole reason I'm following the Bobcats, but there are two things that are undeniably true: Kemba's primarily a scoring point guard, and Kemba's not a franchise-level offensive talent. I honestly think the guy could win a sixth man of the year award down the line, but if Charlotte wants to be a playoff squad in a few years they're going to need to get better offensive talent, and Kemba's gonna have to be able to at least defer to those players. If he's going to truly be an elite point guard, he's going to have to make these theoretical players better while also getting his own offense. As it is, he only does one of those things.

uh oh, you are only making it worse.

btw: it is you and i against the planet on this one. i am just warning you.

[SWedd523]

uh oh, you are only making it worse.

btw: it is you and i against the planet on this one. i am just warning you.

I'm not too far away from you guys on that opinion. Kemba isn't efficient enough to be a featured scorer on a great team, but I'm not sure if he has the mentality to defer to a truly great scorer we sorely need. Won't be able to tell how good he really is until he gets more talent around him because I have to think he'd be fine deferring but I fear he might be better suited as a big fish in a small pond with that small pond being a second unit or a bad team


Brace for the "OMGZ you hate Kembar!" posts

[Bogg]

I'm not too far away from you guys on that opinion. Kemba isn't efficient enough to be a featured scorer on a great team, but I'm not sure if he has the mentality to defer to a truly great scorer we sorely need. Won't be able to tell how good he really is until he gets more talent around him because I have to think he'd be fine deferring but I fear he might be better suited as a big fish in a small pond with that small pond being a second unit or a bad team

There's nothing wrong with saying that for a guy to be as successful as possible he may be best served playing to his strengths off the bench instead of trying to be a guy he's not. Kemba's perfectly adequate if you need someone to fill the basket up for stretches, especially against second-string talent. However, Charlotte needs a serious upgrade on the offensive side of the court, and Kemba can't be taking the ball away from franchise scorers to dribble for 16 seconds before dumping it off.

[Stylesg1234]

Kemba has shown major improvement this year ..I hear alot of guys mentioning that he can be 6th man down the road And can fill it up offensively against the 2nd string ...I just find it hard to believe that some of u guys don't see him as our long term starting PG ( that's the vibe in getting from some of your posts ) ...I think you guys are really undervaluing his talent ..it's only his 2nd year in the league.

Last year he was a guy who looked lost and had a horrible FG % and did a horrible job of running the team and now this year he has become our go to guy offensively and is doing a wonderful job running the team ..his FG % is up and his points per game are up drastically ..he is doing a great job of protecting the ball and has become really aggressive on the defensive end which is clear by him ranking 5th or 6th in the league in steals..Overall I feel like in this short time that he has proven that he is our PG of the future ..he has alot of heart and wants to be great and he gives 100% everytime he is on the floor ..

Of course he isn't all the way there yet and has some things he needs to improve but as a 2nd year player at arguably the hardest position in the NBA , I think he has don't a great job so far ..I not only see him as our PG for the next 6-8 years but I see him as a guy who can become a top 10 PG in this league ..he is already averaging 17 points 6 assists 4 rbds and close to 3 steals ..I don't think it's crazy to think that he be that PG who gives us close to 20 a game along with 7-8 assists and of course the rbds and steals ...he does need to improve on distributing the ball but it's as if he is horrible at it ..he does a pretty good job and his assists per game are about the same as Augustine and Feltons were with us ..his improvement and his game is 1 of the main reasons we are improved this year and why we have become so exciting to watch

[Chef]

Kemba isn't efficient enough to be a featured scorer on a great team, but I'm not sure if he has the mentality to defer to a truly great scorer we sorely need. Won't be able to tell how good he really is until he gets more talent around him because I have to think he'd be fine deferring but I fear he might be better suited as a big fish in a small pond with that small pond being a second unit or a bad team

this is exactly why i am waiting on a final judgement. it would be unfair to do so until he has a good supporting cast with at least one great scorer. i just hope the front office never makes the mistake of not taking a great pg in the future by drafting "need" over "bpa"

[dnbman]

He can make some very nice passes, and he seems to be running things pretty well. As with many of the players we've drafted, it's just hard to tell if he's the real deal at his position. At worse, I think he would be an incredible instant-offense, closer type off the bench. At best, he is our point guard of the present and future.

I think one thing we have to remember when evaluating players is that we don't need a top 10 guy at each position to be successful. We typically compare our guys to the best players in the game, putting them in a position where they're likely to come up short. I'd be content if Kemba was a top 15, top 10 type point guard, especially in this day of fantastic point guards across the league.

That being said, if he's not a top 5-6 point guard, we will definitely need one if not two top 5 players at their position in all likelyhood in order to be successful. MKG definitely looks like a top 5 player, but we need another top scorer, preferably one who can also pass and make plays.

I'm not worried about Kemba. There are reasons to criticize him, but he's coming along fairly nicely and leading a VERY young team. He's being asked to play the way he's playing. He should be fine in the long haul, and we'd be much better served looking at our other positions, save SF, to add talent. To me, Kemba is good enough that, at this point, the only reason you'd be looking to make a change is if you had a clear blue-chip all-star level point guard available to you or some serious talent coming back in a trade.

[spectre]

Why the hell are you guys trolling Bismack's dedicated thread talking about Kemba?

Some people.