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    I remember when Julius Hodge was NBA-ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    I remember when Julius Hodge was NBA-ready
    I died laughing at this lmao. I went to the pro-am last year and watched him and J Wall talk junk to each other, was a legendary experience haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbKicks8 View Post
    You guys overrate Biz way too much, how promising does he really look? We all know Noel will be a better NBA player than Biz, and is already more polished even at this level.
    Food for thought: If Noel is better than Biz, and Noel isn't as good (or more accurately, hyped) as Anthony Davis, then what do we make of Biz's triple double (1st ever in Nike Hoop Summit history) tallied against none other than Davis in the 2011 NHS?

    Fun stats from that game:

    Bismack Biyombo: 12 points, 11 rebounds, 10 blocks
    Anthony Davis: 16 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (only 2 blocks, pathetic)
    Michael Gilchrist: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 5 blocks.

    Oh, and Cody Zeller kind of sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Really, we do? How exactly do we KNOW one way or the other?
    Better chance of him being better than Biz. If Biz was in this draft what pick would be be? Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherDave View Post
    Food for thought: If Noel is better than Biz, and Noel isn't as good (or more accurately, hyped) as Anthony Davis, then what do we make of Biz's triple double (1st ever in Nike Hoop Summit history) tallied against none other than Davis in the 2011 NHS?

    Fun stats from that game:

    Bismack Biyombo: 12 points, 11 rebounds, 10 blocks
    Anthony Davis: 16 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (only 2 blocks, pathetic)
    Michael Gilchrist: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 5 blocks.

    Oh, and Cody Zeller kind of sucks.
    Lol looked who turned out to be better than Biz.. MKG & AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbKicks8 View Post
    Better chance of him being better than Biz.
    lol .....in your opinion........ and

    If Biz was in this draft what pick would be be? Exactly.
    lol what argument are you trying to make?


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    Lol I'm saying just tell me the pick you think he would be drafted.

    I'm done talking about Biz thought its getting boring now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbKicks8 View Post
    Lol I'm saying just tell me the pick you think he would be drafted.

    I'm done talking about Biz thought its getting boring now.
    lol how would any of us know at this point?

    If Bis put up the performances he did prior to last year's draft this year, and was still the "unknown big dude with huge potential", he'd be every bit as high as Noel, Zeller, and the rest of them.


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    Zeller is not having the year many thought he would. He isn't rebounding or playing in general with enough tenacity. He's clearly not a top 5 player at the moment.

    Let's look specifically at Biz, as he's been getting some stick in this thread ... he's both someone to cheer for and get frustrated by. You cheer for the guy because he plays so hard. He puts in 100% effort, 100% of the time. That's infectious and when you have MKG & Kemba (plus Taylor for that matter) doing likewise then it sets a tone for the entire team.

    IF he can improve his finishing at the rim (simple practise repetition), his catching (which he has, just needs to continue doing so) and his passing (which will happen when the game slows down for him) then he really will be a good Big. Add in a post-up game, which he has shown one or two flashes of this season, then we're looking at a quality double-double Big.

    Now I'm not his biggest fan, as I find it hard to justify the spending of such a high pick on a Big who struggles to catch, pass, shoot or post-up but I will not vilify a player who tries as hard as he does. He is still very young and if he can add some of the above elements to his game then we will have a productive, high motor, high character, high level defensive Big on our roster ... something every franchise wants.

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    I was never that big on Zeller. I just thought he was a solid big man that would likely dominate the college level and become a good role playing frontcourt player for whatever team drafted him late in the lottery. I knew his draft stock would fall as the college season went along. However, I wouldn't mind trying to trade up for him with a mild package if we get the Portland pick this year.

    As far as Biyombo, I'm one of his biggest optimist. I was happy when the Bobcats drafted him and thought it was a great pick but now I'm becoming skeptical of what his ceiling really can become since he can't even make point blank layups in the paint. His trajectory is starting to remind me somewhat of that of Andris Biedrens.

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