A Cousins trade in the works?

[Adam42R]

Kobe went 14 out of 29 and he supposed to be one of the best players in the world, ever. I think it's a good thing though; this guy scored 21 points got 14 rebounds and 3 steals and you (all) are acting like he had an off-game. I can't even remember the last time when one of our big men had such a game (must have been Okafor).

Those Sacramento fans are stupid, we all know that, but maybe we're a little stupid too. I know Biz is a good player and he will be great one day, but even if you add two first rounders (probably just inside the lottery) it's still an unfair trade for the kings (don't matter to me, but I doubt Sacramento would accept such an offer). If we really want Cousins the only trade in my opinion would be something like the following:

Bismack Biyombo
Kemba Walker
Gerald Henderson
2 x 1st

For:

Demarcus Cousins
Aaron Brooks/Jimmer Fredette

I don't really have any issues with a want to net Cousins. I don't know a ton about him but he seems like an interesting mix of talent and risk. I do have some immense concerns around those items in bold. Specifically Aaron Brooks who to me, was an enormous distraction to the Rockets the year he was traded away. I believe he was MIP the prior year to that but he was a complete mess and in no way do I see him as an upgrade over Kemba - not in shooting nor assists and he (from the games I have seen) was often uninterested on defense.

As for Fredette, I thought he had been terribly underwhelming and there was talk of him being cut in Summer League due to his inability to run the point. Has that changed?

[CampNightmare8]

I don't really have any issues with a want to net Cousins. I don't know a ton about him but he seems like an interesting mix of talent and risk. I do have some immense concerns around those items in bold. Specifically Aaron Brooks who to me, was an enormous distraction to the Rockets the year he was traded away. I believe he was MIP the prior year to that but he was a complete mess and in no way do I see him as an upgrade over Kemba - not in shooting nor assists and he (from the games I have seen) was often uninterested on defense.

As for Fredette, I thought he had been terribly underwhelming and there was talk of him being cut in Summer League due to his inability to run the point. Has that changed?

From what I've seen Jimmer has picked up his play, last time I looked he was averaging around 11 ppg.. Shoot that's better than I expected thought, he's playing okay.

[isguros]

As for Fredette, I thought he had been terribly underwhelming and there was talk of him being cut in Summer League due to his inability to run the point. Has that changed?

Fredette is playing wel the past couple of weeks, averaging roughly 12,2, and 2 in 19 mpg over his last 10 games. His ft% and 3pt% are also of the chart.

Neither Brooks nor Fredette are as good as Kemba, not by a long shot but like I said before; Cousins is too good to get traded for Biz and a couple of mid first rounders.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I like our core. Breaking it up for a SOLID center is dumb. I wouldn't do Kemba, Biyombo, 2 1sts for Marc Gasol or Roy Hibbert, let alone freakin Cousins

[CampNightmare8]

I like our core. Breaking it up for a SOLID center is dumb. I wouldn't do Kemba, Biyombo, 2 1sts for Marc Gasol or Roy Hibbert, let alone freakin Cousins

At this point there are few players in the league that I would trade Kemba for

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Kemba is better than Hibbert and Cousins at this very moment IMO

[superb1]

I understand our need for a solid big man but I think I'll past on any deal that includes MKG or Kemba. I'll sacrifice Biz but not willingly. Leaving Hendo and Sessions and the 1st rounders. I rather not trade them either. I'm afraid Cousins is too much of a knucklehead to kill our core.

sent from the pseudo GM offices of the Charlotte Hornets

[alfie6]

i really dont see how we get Cousins without giving up MKG or Kemba. If Rich "The Based God" Cho could manufacture something without either of them I say you have to take it. but yea, I think SAC would be getting robbed without one of those guys in the deal.

Lets pray that he does something stupid to piss off everyone in SAC again.

[QC Thundercats]

I do think Couisns is supremely talented, but he's one of those guys that only does what he wants to do. Nobody will reach him or motivate him, not Dunlap, not Jordan - hell, Calipari basically left him alone after another one of his tantrums, and players love Cal (and his money). He's another in the line of Derrick Coleman, J.R. Rider, Rickey Davis - talented knuckleheads who think everyone is wrong about them, and they know what's best for themselves.

There is one big consideration in getting him. While most people agree that if you build a winner, then fans will come, you also have to have a likeable group that fans can rally behind. We have core guys now that our fans love. If we trade most of them away for players like Cousins, then it can leave a sour taste, despite winning more, and the fans wont rally around the team like you would think. Portland fans grew to hate the Jailblazers, even though they were in contention for half a decade and made the Western Conference Finals. I had a friend who is a diehard Pacers fan who hated the Stephen Jackson/Ron Artest/Jermaine O'neal/Jamal Tinsley group because they were so unlikeable, even though they were one of the best Eastern teams at the time.

That said, I would go for him IF you have strong leaders in place. Kemba is a great leader who put a team on his back to win a championship. MKG is a great leader by example, who motivates people by his sheer work ethic and attitude. Biz is someone else who has leadership qualities in the sense that he is a hard worker, and would take shit from nobody, especially Cousins. Biz is the one I would be willing to part with, but if the Kings require Kemba or MKG, I'd look for a different option. You don't want someone like Cousins being the top 1 or 2 guys on the team, otherwise we basically become the Kings east.

[polarcat]

I really hope Cho can work this out without sacrificing MKG, Kemba and Bismack. Cousins is a better version of Tyrus Thomas that actually produces with All-Star calibre play as his ceiling. We traded for T2 with hopes of Cousins level of play and missed on it. The conundrum that we have with with acquiring Cousins is that we need all 3 of MKG, Kemba and especially Bismack to keep Cousins in check. I would part with Bismack but be very reluctant as Biyombo is the exact player that Cousins needs beside him on the court and in the locker room. I believe some GM's would have to part with more, but our GM is such a solid negotiator that we could part with either Taylor or Henderson, Mully, Diop and the owed first round picks to us (not or first this year). Cousins is obviously better right now than Biyombo, so it's not the talent comparison as to why I don't want to deal him, rather the sum of our parts without Biyombo would not be as good moving forward.