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    He's a very good project to have on a team like this. Obviously he needs lots of time and patience and this is one of the few teams in the league looking at such a long rebuilding job that they can give him both patience and playing time. I don't think it's a coincidence that Charlotte has chosen such young players. It helps the rebuilding process by not creating artificially high win totals in the first couple years, so that the team keeps racking up really high draft picks. Then, when the stars are on the roster, supporting players like Biyombo will be ready to fulfill their very specific role. Suddenly a player that seemed limited because he couldn't carry a team on his back to thirty wins, seems like a wonderful player because he fits well in a team with stars and does a great job at the few things the team desperately needs him to do (in this case, rebound and defend the paint).
    That's the theory and I think it's a sound one. However, draft history is littered with foreign big-men ultimately unable to make the transition to the NBA. Biyombo could easily be one of those casualties; I don't think anyone can say with certainty at this point, which way the experiment will go. But all you can ask of a front office is that they have a good plan and a good process. Every front office makes draft picks that don't pan out. Look at OKC and Jeff Green, Miami and Michael Beasley, etc. But if the plan and process is sound, things will progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proudiddy View Post
    I don't see the leaps and bounds of improvement that many are claiming here in Biz. I actually see it the other way around SWedd... Biz looks like the same player to me for the most part, while Faried appears to be improving steadily and is securing an increasingly bigger role for his team in the process.

    I'd love to eat crow but when your biggest problem is being a 20 year old who is learning to actually play basketball for the first time, I just don't think your improvement will be enough to make you a franchise building block. Biz is athletic and has a great work ethic, but he is just so limited instinctively and offensively.
    What improvement has Faried shown?

    His FG% has dropped and his FT% has dropped. He's producing more raw numbers but he's doing it in more time, so his per36 is actually worse than last year. Less points, less rebounds, less blocks, less FTAs. Basically everything you want a big to do, he's doing worse.

    So I mean, I dunno. But the numbers don't say he's doing any better


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    He's obviously better than biz
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbKicks8 View Post
    He's obviously better than biz


    I would hope so.


    He had four years of college experience and is three years older than Bismack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post


    I would hope so.


    He had four years of college experience and is three years older than Bismack.
    We will see..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom v View Post
    He's a very good project to have on a team like this. Obviously he needs lots of time and patience and this is one of the few teams in the league looking at such a long rebuilding job that they can give him both patience and playing time.

    I don't think it's a coincidence that Charlotte has chosen such young players. It helps the rebuilding process by not creating artificially high win totals in the first couple years, so that the team keeps racking up really high draft picks. Then, when the stars are on the roster, supporting players like Biyombo will be ready to fulfill their very specific role. Suddenly a player that seemed limited because he couldn't carry a team on his back to thirty wins, seems like a wonderful player because he fits well in a team with stars and does a great job at the few things the team desperately needs him to do (in this case, rebound and defend the paint).

    That's the theory and I think it's a sound one. However, draft history is littered with foreign big-men ultimately unable to make the transition to the NBA. Biyombo could easily be one of those casualties; I don't think anyone can say with certainty at this point, which way the experiment will go. But all you can ask of a front office is that they have a good plan and a good process. Every front office makes draft picks that don't pan out. Look at OKC and Jeff Green, Miami and Michael Beasley, etc. But if the plan and process is sound, things will progress.
    This. I broke it up for you because a lot of people on this site won't read long paragraphs. Just wanted people to understand your valid point better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom v View Post
    Then, when the stars are on the roster, supporting players like Biyombo will be ready to fulfill their very specific role. Suddenly a player that seemed limited because he couldn't carry a team on his back to thirty wins, seems like a wonderful player because he fits well in a team with stars and does a great job at the few things the team desperately needs him to do (in this case, rebound and defend the paint).
    I've said before that Biyombo's eventual role may wind up being the first big off the bench backing up both the power forward and center position as a high-level role player. This was an unpopular notion with those who feel he's going to wind up a star defensive center.

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    No one expects Bismack Biyombo to carry this team. Thats crazy
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    610 Sports radio says Smack is another bust and at best become a role player off the bench . They are saying any nba big man should know witch HAND to shoot with when in the post and thet SMACK don't. Many callers feel the same way . Saying, MJ drafting is what makes the team suck so bad. Am i just hopeing the team is better than all that,,, or are we the laughing stock of the NBA.. AND IM TO STUPID TO REALIZE IT
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    Quote Originally Posted by dav7z View Post
    610 Sports radio says Smack is another bust and at best become a role player off the bench . They are saying any nba big man should know witch HAND to shoot with when in the post and thet SMACK don't. Many callers feel the same way . Saying, MJ drafting is what makes the team suck so bad. Am i just hopeing the team is better than all that,,, or are we the laughing stock of the NBA.. AND IM TO STUPID TO REALIZE IT
    Just more proof that the majority of all people are stupid as hell.

    I know you aren't and so should you. They're idiots and bashing the team/Jordan makes for more entertainment so that's why they do it.
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