Is Cho Considering Biz A Roast Gone Bad?

[Catch 22]

Rumor Press

Earlier

As reported earlier this week on Rumor Press, the Charlotte Bobcats are interested in reacquiring their protected first round pick from the Tyrus Thomas trade. They’ve talked to the Bulls a few times and Bismack Biyombo was brought up in conversations. Biyombo has two years left on his rookie contract, but has underperformed for a Top-10 pick.

The Bulls have no interest in trading the Bobcats pick in return for a package built around Biyombo. The Bobcats are seeking a third team with a young, athletic big that they hope can interest the Bulls. We have no recent indication of the Bulls shopping the Bobcats pick, but dating back from last year, we know Charlotte wants the pick back.

The latest:

The Bobcats have sought the Sacramento Kings as a potential third team in their efforts to reacquire their first round pick from the Bulls, according to a source.

The Bobcats are trying to interest the Bulls in a young big man who could boost their frontline, like Kings forward Jason Thompson. Thompson is under contract through the 2017 season and is on the table for the Bulls. Thompson has started all 39 games for the Kings this season.

Talks are described as early, and a lot of different ideas are being tossed around. Along with Thompson, Kings guard Jimmer Fredette and a 2013 first round pick coming from Charlotte are on the table. The Bulls are being offered a combination of Thompson, Fredette and a 2013 first round pick from Charlotte. Bobcats swingman Jeffrey Taylor could also be substituted for Fredette in another scenario.

It's unclear whether the Bulls would acquire the Bobcats own or Portland Trailblazers first round pick from the Gerald Wallace trade a few years ago. The Trailblazers pick is top-12 protected, and currently the Blazers have the 14th worst record in the league.

The Kings are interested in Bobcats guard Gerald Henderson. Henderson, who is a restricted free agent this summer, was not offered an extension by Charlotte before the RFA deadline.

Bulls guard Rip Hamilton and center Nazr Mohammed have also been brought up in discussions. In the discussions, Mohammed would go to Sacramento along with Henderson, while Hamilton would go to Charlotte with the Bobcats first round pick from the Bulls.

One deal that works under the CBA (but we don't know if the teams have proposed) would have the Bulls take Jason Thompson, Jeffrey Taylor or Jimmer Fredette, along with a pick from Charlotte, the Bobcats get Rip Hamilton and their pick back from the Bulls, and the Kings taking Gerald Henderson and Nazr Mohammed.

[Chef]

all of those scenarios suck balls. this seems like old gm stuff from the cats, not cho gm stuff. the pick won't be conveyed in the next two years as is so giving up all of that to get back a bottom lotto pick (projecting a few years out) doesn't seem appealing to me.

unless...
we are going after rudy gay and some other moves coupled with our top 5 this year and lotto pick plus detroits the year following and making a slow rebuild go much faster and don't want to give up that other pick.

[CampNightmare8]

Make it happen

[DY_nasty]

none of that made sense

bulls need henderson more than sacramento does. we don't need rip. our pick to chicago won't even be in danger for another 2 years - even if it is, we're buffed by detroit's pick. jason thompson was worth talking about three years ago. i do like jimmer... sorta.

there has to be another player from one of those two teams coming here aside from just jimmer or jason thompson

[spectre]

Yeah I don't get wanting it back that badly either. IF it was the POR pick in a supposedly weak draft and maybe Henderson then I'd be ok with it but I wouldn't be interested in moving any other assets. Odds are fair that we let Hendo walk anyway as someone is apt to overpay him.

[Scottley Crue]

That does seem like a lot to get the pick back, especially if we have to give one up to get it back. Maybe Cho is looking at the 2014 draft and wants to make sure we have our own pick there? If it ends up that Hamilton comes here, then I could see a Gordon/Humphries swap happening too. Actually, that deal makes some sense for both sides regardless of any other deals.

[spectre]

I think the better way to get it back is to take on Boozer. Everyone knows how cheap that ownership group is (profit in the tops of the NBA but never over the LT) so you'd have to think they'd give up an asset vs. amnestying him.

And we could use him.

[Black]

I would't give this source any credit. I checked a Bulls board, and they all said this guy just makes stuff up from thin air, and is never right.

[DY_nasty]

I don't even think we need to deal the pick. Its a weak draft but we'll be picking top 3 anyways and between McLemore, Bazz, and Noel I think we're just fine. Its everyone drafting out of the top 3 that's screwed.

[kitch0202]

If Cho thinks this draft is a weak one, it would make sense to use the Portland pick, which looks like being realised this year, as ammunition. As such I could absolutely see us trading away the Portland pick to the Bulls in order to get back our owed pick. And while the Bulls would love to get rid of Boozer, I'd only be happy taking him on if it meant us getting rid of TT and I don't see that happening.