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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottley Crue View Post
    The Cats are doing due diligence now, but I get the impression that this survey is the last step in that process, not the first. I could be wrong, but I think they already have several paths carved out (stay Bobcats, change to Hornets w/old colors, change w/new colors, etc - all with logos, merchandise ideas and the like) and will use this survey to guide them down one of those paths.

    I think the timing of this survey along with New Orleans' announcement this week was likely set up so Charlotte would have the opportunity to change next season if they receive enough information that calls for one. It really doesn't benefit NO to announce the change now, as there's half a season left to sell things. They could have done that after the season. This puts the Hornets name out there now so if Charlotte wants it back, they can execute one of those plans and not lose an entire season of sales should they want to change.
    I agree with your thinking and tweeted as much to Bonnell, who shot my conspiracy theory down... But, he also shot me down 3 weeks ago when I tweeted him that Greg Miller had just tweeted that he voted in support of the New Orleans name change... Rick checked his sources and said the vote hadn't taken place..

    I tweeted him the leaked logo weeks ago and still nothing...

    I find it very curious that the NBA spoke with MJ about this last season, then allowed the Pelicans rebrand in the middle of a season, then allowed the Bobcats to send out a survey specifically asking about the Hornets name on the very next day.

    Then the Mayor of Charlotte tweeted last month that he couldn't wait to see people filling uptown to watch the Charlotte Hornets play, then the mayor hints in an article yesterday that he has already had a conversation with MJ telling him that he prefers the Hornets name because it better represents Charlottes history..

    I'm sure the Bobcats already have Hornets jerseys designed in the old Teal & Purple & Hornets jerseys in some variation of the current color scheme.

    If the surveys support the name change, I think it happens sooner rather than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGib23 View Post
    I agree with your thinking and tweeted as much to Bonnell, who shot my conspiracy theory down... But, he also shot me down 3 weeks ago when I tweeted him that Greg Miller had just tweeted that he voted in support of the New Orleans name change... Rick checked his sources and said the vote hadn't taken place..

    I tweeted him the leaked logo weeks ago and still nothing...

    I find it very curious that the NBA spoke with MJ about this last season, then allowed the Pelicans rebrand in the middle of a season, then allowed the Bobcats to send out a survey specifically asking about the Hornets name on the very next day.

    Then the Mayor of Charlotte tweeted last month that he couldn't wait to see people filling uptown to watch the Charlotte Hornets play, then the mayor hints in an article yesterday that he has already had a conversation with MJ telling him that he prefers the Hornets name because it better represents Charlottes history..

    I'm sure the Bobcats already have Hornets jerseys designed in the old Teal & Purple & Hornets jerseys in some variation of the current color scheme.

    If the surveys support the name change, I think it happens sooner rather than later.
    Agreed. Its a done deal. The pelicans releasing their logos and merchandise in the middle of the season made it pretty obvious.

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    Haha bbtb!

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    When do y'all think they will release another statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottley Crue View Post
    If the change does happen, I think they should treat it like the NFL treated the Ravens and Browns. As far as those record books go, Baltimore is treated as an expansion team and it just looks like the Browns took a few seasons off, then picked back up. I don't see much of a reason to not treat this the same way (though the Hornets name thing can make it a bit odd, it could be referred to as "Charlotte" basketball records or "New Orleans" basketball records in the history books).

    Like Mustacio, I feel like since it happened here the history belongs here, even if it does turn out to be a Hornets/Bobcats mix. And I'm with you Beagle...I absolutely want Bobby Phils' jersey in the rafters here. Doesn't seem right to me for it to be in New Orleans anymore if they don't want the name.
    Yeah, I was thinking exactly along those lines with the Ravens/Browns saga. I don't see any reason we can't have our records back if we want them. Dell, LJ, Gatt Man, Muggsy, Anthony Frederick (ok, the last one's a stretch),etc. mean so much more to us and mean absolutely nothing to Tom Benson and the folks of NO.

    I really hope there's a way to work this out. Don't go bursting our bubble, Ghost!


    Also, Scottley, I agree with you. All the contingencies are in place (probably started when they were working on the new Bobcats color scheme) and I think once the surveys are analyzed we'll get an announcement soon thereafter and can finally move forward.
    "The Charlotte Hornets name has been a mainstay throughout the region for many years, and we are excited to announce our intention to re-establish this historic brand. We believe that its return will galvanize our fan base by unifying our loyal Bobcats fans with those who have strong memories of our city's NBA predecessor." MJ, 5-21-13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottley Crue View Post
    I think the timing of this survey along with New Orleans' announcement this week was likely set up so Charlotte would have the opportunity to change next season if they receive enough information that calls for one. It really doesn't benefit NO to announce the change now, as there's half a season left to sell things. They could have done that after the season. This puts the Hornets name out there now so if Charlotte wants it back, they can execute one of those plans and not lose an entire season of sales should they want to change.
    Since the New Orleans team will be the Pelicans next season, if they wanted to be the ones to 'announce' it and get their logo out front & centered, they needed to do it now. Adidas' NBA retail book (2 volumes, each about an inch thick) is usually available to retail outlets in March of each year. The book has pretty much every Official NBA endorsed apparel item in it for the upcoming season (minus draft-day items). Once those logos leave the NBA or Adidas umbrella, they would start getting leaked and go viral pretty quickly. Announcing it in advance of any print house having the logos allows Tom Benson to pick & choose his day of fame. Since the Saints sucked this year, it didn't surprise me that he did it prior to the Superbowl to give the New Orleans fanbase something else to think about.

    In the past the retail book has gone out with To Be Determined/Announced logos/designs when teams tweak their logos which is no big deal for the Lakers, Bulls or Lakers (we all know what they look like and they never change). However, for a completely new logo/team name, getting the design out to the public early, the retailers will hopefully have sense of interest from their fanbase when they are deciding what they should order.

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    I would hope theyd announce it pretty damn quick. No matter what the outcome is the one thing that kills sales the most is uncertainty. Im dying to pick up a walker jersey right now but obviously im not gonna do it if i dont even know what our teams name is going forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatNation View Post
    I would hope theyd announce it pretty damn quick. No matter what the outcome is the one thing that kills sales the most is uncertainty. Im dying to pick up a walker jersey right now but obviously im not gonna do it if i dont even know what our teams name is going forward
    Exactly. I pretty much know we're the Hornets now. Just waiting for the okay. Hopefully we drop our Merch also as quick as the pelicans did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGib23 View Post
    Would you give up your season tickets over a name change?

    That's the crux of the issue.. Which brand create more revenue. That's what we will be.
    Most likely , Though most of the games i missed this year is due to health. And interest is more about watching them on tv thease days ,even with tix..

    ONE QUESTION no one has addrested ?? What will become of Bobcatsplanet Will it change all so ? And become the Hornets [what ever] ?

    ZIGGY, mods, who ever ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dav7z View Post
    Most likely , Though most of the games i missed this year is due to health. And interest is more about watching them on tv thease days ,even with tix..

    ONE QUESTION no one has addrested ?? What will become of Bobcatsplanet Will it change all so ? And become the Hornets [what ever] ?

    ZIGGY, mods, who ever ?
    Dav7z,

    Ziggy owns the domain Hornetsplanet.com but, said he hasn't decided if he will use it or this one as a salute to our Bobcats heritage.

    Also, sorry to hear about any health problem.. Get Well soon!
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