gerald henderson and the bobcats part 3

[gm in training]

all i wanted dunlap to do was to show some consistency with his line-ups and mins .that 11 man rotation he was doing wasnt working and it takes players out their comfort zone w half ass minutes. but as of late dunlap has pretty much stayed with an 8 man rotation giving quality mins to his key players , and we've been an real competitive team except the houston and indy gm's but stuff happens. dunlap is still pressing but we dont zone nearly as much and we are playing alot more man to man
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dunlaps consistent rotation leads me to this .... as for the month of feb gerald has played 9 games and avg over 30 min in 8 of them(imma count the cavs game ,he had 29 min) . here are his percentages and ranking for those games.

past 8 games

42% percent - top 15 among guards
5.6 reb- 1st among guards
2.7 assist -11 among guards
4.7 free throw attempts-6th among guards
1.0 stls- 14 among guards
15.5 ppg- 11 among guards
3% -40+ among guards


15 ppg is great considering that he has 2 score first mentality pg's, gordon who can take about 10 shots in 20 mins and pf who avg about 18 attempts a game. hendo compliments kemba great because hendo is a go with the flow type player who rarely break stride and finds his shots within the offensive.

hypothetically if we did have a pass first pg like vasquez or something , hendo would definitely avg around 18-20 pts easily . hendo scores in about 6 different ways so his game isnt predictable .

every one wants to pair kemba with an score first sg when history proves over and over that 2 primary ball-handlers or 2 score 1st mentality players doesnt work well. it usually ends in a conflict with each other game.usually when its does work ,somebody has to change their game around or the other person has to be overly efficient , ex:


deron and joe -both having career lows

iverson and melo- looked like an side show

melo and stoudamire- 2 yrs of hell , end result stoudamire is a 6th man

kobe and the world - nash is fighting not to become an spot-up shooter,howard isnt as skilled of an offensive player so its hard to work in half-court offense like it was with bynum(overly efficient player)

rudy gay and randolph - both are primary scorers , somebody had to go. end result grizzlies currently are in a 5 gm winning streak.

wade ,lebron,and bosh. lebron is so god like he took the cavs to the finals ,nuff said.

westbrook and durant- durant is so overly efficient he makes up for westbrooks errors.

rose,deng,and boozer . deng finds his shots within the offense but rose and boozer game conflicts with each other and usually pg and big men usually work but rose is an scoring guard who needs lanes to operate and boozer is an post player.

its like every one wants to be ohhh and ahhh'd but that doesnt work in the nba ,but chemistry do, and i think dunlap may have found a core unit and i can see us winning 16-20 games in the second half.

i stated in the beginning of the season that sessions was a great pick-up while others felt he was an wasted journey man( ppl need to watch more basketball) , but he may be dunlaps favorite player and he's only 26 so he has room for improvement.

i was down on kemba because i didnt like his erratic style but he currently picks and chooses when to dominate and paces himself. i think kemba may have hit an sophmore slump because his numbers are going down each month but i feel its nothing to be worried about.

i feel we should either play mkg at pf more , or give him 20 min a game and develop him along or maybe even trade him because if you watch our games he doesnt fit well with others and he has a hitch meaning its not going anywhere. mkg may never be what everyone thinks he is but an athlete who hustles which doesnt qualify as an 2nd pick .

biz is playing great as of late but he needs to be in a ben wallace mind state and attempt maybe at least 3 shots a game. we have about 4 legit scorers and if it isnt a dunk he shouldnt even think about.

mullens game havent changed much except instead of shooting 22 attempts , he's paced himself around 16-17. he still jacking but more efficient ,and he is attacking the basket more .

i was so high on tyrus and this hurts my heart but tyrus is a bum. he's nowhere as close as athletic as when he was a bull or when he first arrived . ive been an strong suppporter but tyrus isnt tyrus.it was one thing to be bone-headed and athletic ,and its another to be bone-headed and not athletic . tyrus doesnt run the floor , dont know when the last time he caught an alley or even dunked on someone. ive seen tyrus get his dunk blocked by glen davis and i turned the tv off. i think the bulls swapped tyrus legs w grant hills before the trade.

in the nba all it takes is one player to change a franchise ,and i think we are an great pf or center away from being a playoff team .

free agent wish list
j-smoove at pf ,mullens at center
jefferson at c ,mullens at pf
millsap at pf , mullens at center
humphries at pf , mullen at center... humphries is a real good pf who may have rubbed someone on the nets the wrong way. jay-z owns nets- jay-z friends w kanye- kanye smashing kim k- hump and kim having an public divorce ,just saying.

maybe we could trade for taj gibson,cousins for mkg and some picks, maybe deandre for mkg.

[tom v]

I would love to be able to throw a bunch of counter-examples at you but I can't off the top of my head. I do think that Kemba's score-first game is going to ultimately be a problem going forward, because if you're going to be that kind of player at his height then that player better be transcendent a la Iverson in his prime or Isiah early in his career. I just think that picking as high as they are for the next couple of years, the Bobcats are going to have the option of adding some pretty great perimeter scorers that will need to be the first offensive option. Like you, I feel that pairing a player like that with Kemba will be problematic.

I think Kemba's real destiny in the NBA is to be a sixth man on a great team. He would be phenomenal as a change of pace PG that dominates the second unit. Unfortunately, with the rigid salary-cap, those kind of roles are going to become rarer and rarer as teams will be unable to afford to put big money in a player that doesn't start no matter how effective that strategy. We see what just happened with Harden and OKC (obviously Harden is a franchise player who would command a max contract, and I don't see that for Kemba, but Kemba is playing himself into a very nice second contract).

[SWedd523]

[gm in training]

this coming from somebody who stated ibaka was as raw offensively as biz....yeah im never going to let that slide lol. you know i got the proof.

[CatNation]

Henderson will make a good bench player for another team

then again I thought the same thing about DJ

[SWedd523]

this coming from somebody who stated ibaka was as raw offensively as biz....yeah im never going to let that slide lol. you know i got the proof.

Ooh please share!

And I'll share your thoughts on Hendo being a top 20 player lol

[tom v]

I fear that this is going to be a constant discussion over the next few years as far as shooting guard goes, whether it's Henderson or a drafted replacement. The example to keep in mind is Chicago - a score first, ball-dominant PG, a do-everything excellent defender small forward, and a series of question marks at the 2.

We've seen them try everything from defensive specialists like Ronnie Brewer to 3 point specialists like Kyle Korver to mid-range slashers like Rip Hamilton. While the team is successful, that position never gives them the production needed to win tight games in the playoffs against top teams.

And I think that's going to be the case almost anywhere you have such a ball-dominant PG. The shining example of having two big scorers on the perimeter with one at PG is obviously OKC, but they have yet to win a championship and those are two otherworldly talents. Sometimes the talent is so great that even if the fit isn't perfect, the talent overwhelms such as with Wade and Lebron. Unfortunately, it's hard to project Kemba developing into that kind of superstar player even though I really like him and enjoy watching him.

It's tricky: Walker, along with MKG is a big part of changing the culture here. While he takes a lot of shots for his position, I never sense that he is a selfish player and feel that he genuinely prioritizes winning above personal stats. He seems like a great teammate, same with MKG. He has drive and dedication and work ethic that can't be overvalued for a young rebuilding team trying to institutionalize those values in the way San Antionio has managed to. However, his game is going to be a tough fit as they build out this roster with top-5 draft picks.

[JGib23]

The way I see it is this.

Barring anything crazy happening like winning the Wiggins lottery, there is a very strong probability that Kemba and MKG will be our starting PG & SF for the next 5 years (hopefully 10 years). So the real question isn't if Gerald Henderson is a good player (we all think he's a solid player, good but, not great), we need to determine if his skillet is the right fit between Kemba and MKG. I don't think he is the right player to pplay between those 2.

The perfect player to play between Kemba and MKG in my mind is a dead eye 3 point shooter to help spread the floor and also creative enough as a ball handler to create easy scoring opportunities for other players because Kemba isn't your typical pass first PG... Someone like James Harden and I know great players like that don't grow on trees but, that's the type of player that would create a great wing trio that's skill set blends perfectly.

I don't see anyone if FA that really could fill that role but, in the draft we may be able to add that piece.

McLemore has a beautiful stroke from 3 and great athleticism but, he lacks the play making ability to breakdown a defense off the dribble and create those opportunities to compensate for Kemba not being a traditional pass-first PG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzufDLiYTNc

Marcus Smart- I think would be the absolute perfect player to pair with Kemba if only he had a better 3point jumpshot. Smart is built like a tank, unselfish, a terror on defense but, his outside shot is weak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eclOw60dITg

At this point I support bringing Hendo back at a reasonable price as a 6th man but, I'm afraid someone will pay hike more than he us worth to us considering we have Taylor on a rookie contract that with some seasoning can offer us almost exactly what Hendo can/will.

[gm in training]

The way I see it is this.

Barring anything crazy happening like winning the Wiggins lottery, there is a very strong probability that Kemba and MKG will be our starting PG & SF for the next 5 years (hopefully 10 years). So the real question isn't if Gerald Henderson is a good player (we all think he's a solid player, good but, not great), we need to determine if his skillet is the right fit between Kemba and MKG. I don't think he is the right player to pplay between those 2.



The perfect player to play between Kemba and MKG in my mind is a dead eye 3 point shooter to help spread the floor and also creative enough as a ball handler to create easy scoring opportunities for other players because Kemba isn't your typical pass first PG... Someone like James Harden and I know great players like that don't grow on trees but, that's the type of player that would create a great wing trio that's skill set blends perfectly.

I don't see anyone if FA that really could fill that role but, in the draft we may be able to add that piece.

McLemore has a beautiful stroke from 3 and great athleticism but, he lacks the play making ability to breakdown a defense off the dribble and create those opportunities to compensate for Kemba not being a traditional pass-first PG.



Marcus Smart- I think would be the absolute perfect player to pair with Kemba if only he had a better 3point jumpshot. Smart is built like a tank, unselfish, a terror on defense but, his outside shot is weak.



At this point I support bringing Hendo back at a reasonable price as a 6th man but, I'm afraid someone will pay hike more than he us worth to us considering we have Taylor on a rookie contract that with some seasoning can offer us almost exactly what Hendo can/will.

hendo doesnt fit with kemba and mkg? i think its the other way around, mkg cant fit with hendo and kemba.


you contradicted your statement twice . you felt that hendo didnt fit in the trio but then mentioned two players who wasn't your preferable playing style(stretch 2-guard). first off ben mclemore is almost an gerald henderson clone without the post moves. 2nd smart is a 6'4 mkg ,who has put up some horrid shooting games. 3rd taylor is a spot-up shooter ,cant beat his man off the dribble,no mid range,cant create for others,6'7 with 40 inch but he doesnt rebound.

so what that comment you made, leaves me to believe that alot of the forum posters just want to draft because its exciting and cool. it really has nothing to do with hendo or the bobcats .hendo is the longest tenured bobcat so he's old news despite the fact that he's maybe the only player on our team or even the few guards who actually is upgrading his game every year in different areas.

if you was really concerned you would stated an big who may of not let greg monroe score like 8 points in a row in the post in the last 3 min of a 4th qt gm or leroy allen(76ers) have an career nite.

[kickazzz2000]

first off ben mclemore is almost an gerald henderson clone without the post moves. 2nd smart is a 6'4 mkg ,who has put up some horrid shooting games. 3rd taylor is a spot-up shooter ,cant beat his man off the dribble,no mid range,cant create for others,6'7 with 40 inch but he doesnt rebound.

What abt Bazz