Look, Charlotte needs a real, top-shelf scoring option at shooting guard if they're going to run with Kemba and MKG on the perimeter. It's not some happy coincidence that in nine wins Henderson is averaging over 19 a game while shooting 50% from the field and over 44% from three, while in all of the losses he's posting 13/42%/34%. If you can plug in a shooting guard with a higher ceiling you do it, and it doesn't make sense to overpay Henderson to be a backup utility man, because you've already got Jeff Taylor making the minimum to fill that role. If you can't get a better shooting guard because they've already been taken in the draft, then yea, you bring back Henderson and figure it out later. Pointing at a small handful of Hendersons' best games this year, plugging your ears, and shouting that that's going to become the new norm doesn't change the fact that those games are outliers.
backup utility man ? utility means various ; utility truck , utility belt . i think you meant role players? but they usually specialize in specific areas like 3 point shooting, defense,rebounding,and shot blocking but when you combine most of them traits you have more than a back-up utility player , you have a starter or even a star player. only exception is if the player is excellent at his specific trait like reggie evans or tony allen then he may start. but what makes hendo an back up utility player , im curious ?
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im not understanding why ppl keep saying if he's demanding more than 6-7 mil let him walk , when we may be a top 5 cap free team ? at this point we are 2 mil over the cap , diop free up 7 mil,we amnesty thomas that free up 8, dont resign mullens that free up 4 mil and trade gordon or sessions , that can free up 26-32 mil . also the nba free agency is structured for teams to keep there best players?
nothing in this forum doesn't make sense at all? ppl are pushing hard for mclemore , when that may set the bobcats back another 3-4 years to develop him, then we still have to develop biz, mkg, and kemba has to work on his court vision and that comes along with team chemistry( not adding rookies) because 5 assist a game ain't cutting it. not to mention we still need bigs. this okc gameplan is getting way out of hand , i dont think ppl get it but kevin durant is a super talent that comes once in a lifetime , westbrook ;yes is great but it took him like 4 years to become more team oriented and he was like the worst to/assist ratio guard in the lg for years.
the fact of the matter is that , you dont replace a good young player to draft an unproven player . there isn't any superstars in this draft , pg and sg have the hardest learning curves of all positions because they usually shoot bad for the first few years and cant control the ball.
it took iggy like 6 years to establish himself, joe johnson like 5 years , derozan still developing, evan turner still developing ,paul george scoring doesn't wow you but he's 6'9 so he effects the game in alot of other ways, james harden is an exception because he is a student of the game and is just smooth , jr smith been in the lg for like a 10 years and this is his best year, jj redick was one of the best "shooting" guards in college history and found himself in the doghouse for about 3 years with streaky shooting and horrid d, tyreke evans has regressed every year , beal has been inconsistent , lillard is having a great year but so did evans and darren collinson.....basically i could run through ever guard situation but everyone wants whats shiny and new instead of whats best for the team
In regards to Henderson playing better in wins because he's playing more: he's averaging about 4 more minutes per game in those wins than he is in all the losses, which is easily explained by the fact that when a guy's playing well, you leave him in, not some huge shift in roster management. To say nothing of those wins being spread out over the season and not all clusterd in the last three weeks.
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Hendo's last 6 games:
1 Booker destroyed
49% FG (45-92)
50% 3FG (4-
94% FT (44-47)
With four games over 20, and lowest of 16 points on very high efficiency scoring. Also, he's averaging over 15 shots per game, which shows his more aggressive game as Dunlap prescribed.
If he's able to get to the free throw line like he has, this would help curb his inconsistency, as he's shown the last 6 in a row. These don't seem like aberrations anymore. He also hit another big clutch 3, similar to the timberwolves game earlier this year.
I admit, I was indifferent to him earlier this year when he was up and down, but he really does look like a different player. Even if we go MacLemore, why can't we sign Hendo for 3-4 years and have great depth on the wings, and if MacLemore starts developing into that star, then Hendo would be easy to trade.
Or pair him with Bennett, with Kemba's high scoring and MKGs developing offensive game, and I think the comfort level, chemistry, and better understanding and improvements in everyone's game will give us multiple options to attack on offense and a much better flow.
I don't think we're necessarily forced to let Hendo walk, unless he receives a ridiculous poison pill contract. I think we can keep him and still get BPA, regardless of position, and still have options down the line.
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We're all making this more difficult than it needs to be.
All we really have to worry about is paying him more than market value because of some crush we have on his potential. Pay him market value for an 18/6 guy (I think we all agree its somewhere between 6-8.) Hendo at that price level isn't some bench guy holding us back like a Diopian contract albatross. He is a suitable starter on a decent team, and valuable depth if we draft a BPA at his position that turns out better. All while still showing signs of his I believe great potential. And if we stay in that fair market range, he shouldn't be hard to move at the right time.
8 million may sound crazy to some and it may sound perfectly normal to others. All we can worry about is that if the rest of the league thinks 8 million is crazy for Henderson. I personally think 7 million for Hendo is a really great, liquid asset, anything over and its getting dangerous.
Into the crevasse!
"Climb down Lemon, Climb down"
But yeah, this is admittedly a hot string of games. I'm sure hell have a cold streak averaging only 13-14, and likely would go to a mean of 17-18/game next year. But this recent streak may portend what he's actually capable of with this new approach to his game.
Plenty of us have said he doesn't have the mentality to be a cutthroat, take over type assassin, since he's never been a go to guy in his career. He had Wayne Ellington in high school, and other capable scorers at Durham college to take pressure of him, and never had to be "the man."
But Dunlap has hoisted that responsibility on him, to be more aggressive, and it seems it may be starting to take. He challenged Kemba to be a more vocal leader, and you could see how that worked all year, and could finally hear during the wizards game. He challenged MKG to be a better shooter, and that's starting to take. He's challenged Mullens to be tougher and a better rebounder, and if that doesn't take, he'll be replaced by McBob. He's working with Biz, but he's only on hour 3 of the roast.
But as I think we all can agree, if the money's right, lets keep him. It's up to Cho to determine what is right for us going forward.
Draft BPA and trade for need is exactly what Cho said on the "Driven" piece on foxsports.
Is the difference in talent so great that we can't avoid injury-prone liability players? Noel: sorry, you may look good in summer camp but no telling how much pain you're playing through. Same with Hendo, I'm not investing for more than market value. You're either injury prone in this league or you aren't...chronic lower body issues or ACL tear is a deal breaker in my book. It's not like passing up Davis with a torn ACL for Bradley Beal.
This team is not built for a utility guard, at least not in a starting position, it is built for a scoring guard. Another reason I pay no more than market value.
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