I have to thank mrknowitall215 at RGM for the post since that's where I found it...
Chad Ford's Ranking of Prospects by Draft Tier
The past few years I've chronicled a draft ranking system employed by several teams called the tier system.
In the tier system, teams group players, based on overall talent, into tiers. Then the teams rank the players in each tier based on team need. This system allows teams to draft not only the best player available but also the player who best helps the team.
So what do the tiers look like this year? After talking to several GMs and scouts whose teams employ this system, here is how the tiers look:
(Note: Players are listed alphabetically in each tier.)
Note: This category is usually reserved for guys who are surefire All-Stars and franchise players. Since 2009, only Blake Griffin, John Wall and Anthony Davis have been ranked in this slot. This year, there just isn't anyone who looks like a "surefire" anything.
Note: Tier 2 is reserved for players who are projected as potential All-Stars by scouts. They are typical high lottery picks in a normal draft. Last year, Bradley Beal, Harrison Barnes and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist all got the nod as Tier 2 players. In 2011, Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams were in this tier.
This year, I couldn't get a majority of teams to project anyone in this draft as a potential All-Star. Nerlens Noel, Ben McLemore and Anthony Bennett all got a vote or two from teams that had them in Tier 2, but the overwhelming majority of teams I talked to had these players ranked as Tier 3 prospects. This is the first draft tiers column I've ever done where no players are ranked in Tier 2.
Otto Porter Jr.
Note: These are the top six guys in the draft and one of the few places that you'll find consensus. While there are a few exceptions, there's a good chance that these six players will be the first six to hear their names called on draft night. Teams have these six ordered differently depending on need or whether they are looking for immediate help or upside, but every team I spoke with had these six as their top six in some order.
Note: After Tier 3, the consensus breaks down pretty quickly. These are typical late-lottery to mid-first-round selections in a normal draft -- selections 10-20. In this draft, this group is more likely to be drafted in the 7-14 range. Burke, McCollum and Carter-Williams got a small number of votes for Tier 3, but the majority had them ranked in Tier 4. Zeller was ranked in Tier 4 by every team I spoke with. Caldwell-Pope and Adams had some Tier 5 votes, but the majority of votes was in Tier 4.
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Glen Rice Jr.
Note: This next group is the largest Tier 5 I've ever had, and it shows where the strength of the draft is. There is incredible depth here, and it's not uncommon to hear teams say that the player drafted at No. 35 might be as good as the player at No. 15. There is a whopping 26 players in this group. At least eight of these players won't hear their names called in the first round.
A few teams had Antetokounmpo, Karasev, Muhammad and Nogueira in Tier 4, but not quite enough for them to make the cut. Interestingly, Ledo got two votes for Tier 4 and is a guy who clearly has been impressing people in workouts.
Note: This tier has the players who were listed as top 60 prospects by the majority of the teams I spoke with. Of the group, only Abrines, Jerrett and Pressey got some Tier 5 votes.
Like every draft system, the tier system isn't perfect. But the teams that run it have had success with it, allowing them to get help through the draft without overreaching. Compared to traditional top-30 lists or mock drafts, it has proved to be a much more precise tool of gauging which players a team should draft.
I agree about the tier 1 & 2. If Noel didnt have injury concerns id have him in tier 2 due to his elite defense.
This draft just plain sucks.
Looking specifically at Tiers 3 & 4 they seem to match with most people's opinions on here too. Tier 3 is who we'll be picking from at 4 and Teir 4 is who we'd be looking at with one of the 9th, 13th etc. picks that have been debated about.
Can't say I disagree with any names in either Tier 3 or 4.
I think you have to have tiers on two different categories.
I see what you mean, but a "skill" alone tier system means nothing. Plenty of guys would be a top tier skill player now that have no future in the NBA, which is really the whole point.
SOMEONE will pay for THIS!
Shabazz moved from being a top pick last year to being tier 5. wow. Kind of glad we didn't get Portland's and Detroit's pick this year.
The teams that use the "Tier system" have established parameters and it certainly takes skill as part of that equation...this (thank goodness) is not Chad Fords opinion but the player tier rankings are based on where the teams that use the sytem slot players each year (just adding that for clarity for anyone who dislikes Ford...which is a bunch of us)...this is how "Tier System Teams" see the players in this years draft...their combined skill/potential...then they (individual teams) arrange the players in each tier for need with the "feeling" they're getting "equal talent" but filling their team need...
"In the tier system, teams group players, based on overall talent, into tiers. Then the teams rank the players in each tier based on team need. This system allows teams to draft not only the best player available but also the player who best helps the team."