Getting close to the draft so I'm trying to relax from some of the thread intensity. But some comments (especially about youtube) made me think of my playing days. I'm attaching a link to and article I've just found in the Atlanta Journal Constitution about a guy (Herb White) that was on my HS team. I was on the freshman team then but every once in a while a couple of "fresh" would scrimmage with the varsity and this guy, Herb 6'2", could dunk like you wouldn't believe. He was drafted by the Hawks and I think lasted 1-2 years because all he could do was dunk.(actually it was 1yr. because he had an ankle injury...lost his lift but was a long time ago so give me a break here...LOL) But, he was damned good at it. I'm checking to see if I can find an old Hawks vid with him dunking but I'm not holding my breath...but check the article it's a fun read.
Another LA Times article mentions him...still looking for vid though...
Chamberlain was asked, weren't there any great leapers of the white persuasion?
Wilt mentioned a few names, then said, "You know, there was a white boy who played for Atlanta around 1970. Never got off the bench, but in warmups he could dunk better than anyone I've ever seen."
Another good article from the SI vault...
"One night, in front of a full house at Madison Square Garden, White's layup-line levitations so captivated the crowd that he got a standing ovation. "Compared to the ABA, the NBA back then was a slow-down, straitlaced league," says White, whose pro career ended with an ankle injury after that single season. "But by word of mouth you got to know who the dunkers were, and by the end of the year everyone pretty much agreed that Claude English [of the Portland Trail Blazers] and me were the two best." As it happened, when the Hawks and the Blazers met late in the season, the two men had a chance to settle matters. "He did a one-handed 360," says White. "Now there's a dunk I could do with two balls, and I was ready to pull that one out if I had to. But after I did a 360 two-handed, Claude conceded."
I can't find a vid though...sad that youtube came along too late...LOL
Last edited by BRNC; 06-22-2013 at 07:01 PM. Reason: addition...correction
This is the last post I'll put in this thread because I'm more interested in people reading the links to the articles...but the point of this story is I know the hours this guy put in the gym. I know this guy ran "stadiums" with double leg weights on 365 DAY...you don't become "elite" in athletics, or any profession, by rolling out of the bed. When I see post like the "watch youtube" etc. I kinda ROFLOL and puke a little in my mouth at the same time because that attitude towards what you don't know fits "magical thinking" in my book. When I see post with "magical thinking" I take a deep breath, remind myself to not get angry, and think of the poster as that "little kitten that can't find its' way out of a one-sided box".
Last edited by BRNC; 06-22-2013 at 11:29 AM. Reason: spelling...lol
I always enjoy hearing about obscure players and especially enjoy hearing about guys who work that much harder than their competition to get better. That's a big reason why I love guys like Bismack, Kemba, and MKG. It'd be nice to see if you could find some video footage of him because it sounds like he was a hell of a leaper, especially if he made it to the pros when "all he could do was dunk".
As for that second post... (sigh, this may delve into a political opinion) that plays a major role in current society where if you don't get it easily, you say fuck it and don't care. Hard work doesn't exist anymore and it's a big reason why the country is devolving. "Go watch youtube videos" instead of get in the gym and put up shots. lol
Look...the "sense of entitlement" of today drives me to distraction...no problem there...I thought you'd appreciate it and I'm glad you did...as for the vid...I've searched every where and can't come up with anything from the year he played with the Hawks but (I'll guess you'll have to) nothing in those articles was an exaggeration about this guy in any-way-shape-or-form...the guy could sky...
Last edited by BRNC; 06-22-2013 at 03:18 PM. Reason: spelling...lol
What kind of leaper was he? Super smooth and hang time like an MJ or Thompson, or a violent power guy like Nique or LeBron? Any idea the sort of stats he put up in high school?
Herb...he was "stat magnet" in HS because he was such an athletic freak...best comparison think 6'2 'Nique...but he was also a tough guy...UGA had him playing PF at least one year that I know of (and as you well know there were some big PFs even in the late '60s early '70s)...but that's the best comparison...and I'll share this...
I was Jr. Varsity PG when he was a Sr. but we'd all play at the Rec center when school was out and no BB season...I was also Middle-LB/Tight-end Jr. varsity and "considered" tough with good reason but we were 'bout the same size...he had a half inch on me but we were the same weight...first time I played against him (pick-up) I got a facial that I remeber to this day...picked myself out of the wall...when Herb went into the air no one (including me after that) got in front of him...guys on other teams hated facing him...
I've given it a little more thought and given his all-around game he'd fit the "freak athlete" mold and I mean no dis to him by saying that...but given the "time in space" when he was there were very few freaks like this guy...probably why he made the Hawks because in the NBA (not ABA) these guys were rare...
I'm sure the vertical in HS (from one of the articles) was a best guess on his part but I have to assume the NBA number was measured...pretty impressive in 1970...that's why (for us then) it was jaw dropping watching this guy...man all you could do was shake your head...LOL
"White, an executive with Georgia Public Broadcasting, figures his vertical leap as a 6-foot-2 high school player in the mid-1960s was 40 to 42 inches. It was 46 inches during his one NBA season."
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After reading those articles, it's inspiring me to work even harder to try achieve that first goal towards dunking, touching the rim.
I've currently increased my vertical by about an inch, but its tough as hell going. Thanks for that BRNC.
For the record, I'm 5'7...I hope it's achievable haha.
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