We are easily a 40-45 win team . We have a legitimate starter at every position and we may have the deepest bench in the lg.
Teams that will fight for the 6,7, 8th spots; bos,tor,cavs,was,cha, det and atl.
The bobcats are better than all those teams right now . If Bynum plays at least 60 games I think they will make the playoffs ,but the Cavs do not have a legit 2-guard or small forward. Waiters had a horrid rookie year , his shot was off the whole year and he was very careless with the ball.Even if Waiters improves he still goes from being a D- player to a C- player , at this point he's not even better than Ellington(with the Mavs) . I think Earl Clark will start ,but they may try Bennett at sf. Even though he's a great talent , I feel there will be huge growing pains from playing pf to the transitioning of being a sf coming out of college. The Cavs bench doesn't even look adequate , yeah they have jack and Thompson/Aderson but besides that there very weak at sg,sf .
6th man t-psycho
Toronto starting line-up is ok. Lowry is there best player by far, I'm not a Rudy Gay fan because he's a ball-stopper who's not that good of a scorer. When you pair Derozan and Gay , u may easily have the least efficient sg and sf combo in all basketball . Derozan shot 38 percent away from the basket, and Gay barely shot over 40% last year. Amir johnson is maybe a C+ starter who is capable of busting out with a good game every 7-8 games. Jonas could be a good center, I had him on my fantasy team late in the year and he was a productive player. Toronto's bench actually looks fair with Dj augustine, T-psycho ,and T-ross.
6th man Barbosa ,( log jam at sf so i didnt consider porter )
Washington didn't make any improvements in the off-season. There starting line-up is below average . Beal had a great rookie year and could be a above-avg starter this year . Webster keeps some consistency on there team and a reliable scorer, but after Webster I feel there could be a drop off in talent . Ariza is a bench player (not 6th man) on most teams at this point in his career. Nene always was a overrated big who is known for his highlight dunks and steals , but he doesn't give you post points,horrid rebounding, and below avg blocks. Ever since okafor (like to see Booker start at pf)became a wizard his stats took a dramatic drop , he's maybe not even a top 25 center . There bench is led by Barbosa and Otto jr , nuff said.
6th man Lou
Atlanta may have the worst starting line-up and bench out of all of these teams. I don't even know why i listed them. They do not have a legit sg or sf, Korver is great shooter but he's a role player on majority teams. Their starting sf is between Deshaun or Dahntay , wow? They're like the 11th player on most teams. There bench is ass, besides Lou Williams who may be a starter but who is their 2nd best bench player ........?
6th man Crawford
Boston is still a good team, and I feel there coaching could make or break this team. They have legitimate starters at every position, and a very good bench. There solid from pg-sf , but there big's will make or break the team, Bass is a c- starter who's jumper is almost perfect , and a below avg rebounder. I prefer Humphries to start at pf because he's a good player who I feel can push the Celtics to becoming a playoff team. At center I would like Oylnk because he's very polish scorer and I think he'll work better with Humphries( alot like Hump and Lopez) . Sullinger is still a big ? mark and we are not sure how good he is .
6th man Bynum
The pistons ( alot like the pelicans) have just talent, the players do not seem to match together skill wise.Only if Drummond comes off the bench then this team, may seem like a legit playoff team because the starting line-up of Smith , Monroe , and Drummonds doesn't fit well offensively. Its hard to imagine that they will keep Drummond on the bench because he's such a talent but they may have to start Charlie V at the pf just to create some floor spacing. Honestly,this may be the worst shooting team in all basketball right now, unless they can keep teams under 80 points every game , Its going be a real awkward season. The pistons bench may have more chemistry than the starting line-up , and seems to be a good group( if Drummond comes off the bench).
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The Bobcats really have legitimate starter at every position , and I see no weaknesses . Kemba is becomeing more a complete point guard, Hendo( we all know I how I feel about that), mkg at best could be a defensive ace to shut other teams scoreres down, considering if Zeller is a rookie of the year candidate ( that alone make him a above-avg player),and al jefferson who is a potential all-star . Our bench is led by sessions who could start on at least 5 teams, taylor seems to be prompted to make a major leap , and we have two former starters in bob and biz our our back up bigs
I think there are 7 teams in the Eastern Conference thatwill be playoff teams barring serious injury. #1 – Miami, #2 – Indiana, #3 – Chicago, #4 – New Jersey, #5 – New York. #6– Detroit and #7 – Cleveland. After that it is anybody’s game. Personally, I think an 8-seed season would bea failure because you get to go getdestroyed by Miami and you lose your 1st Round Draft pick in thebest draft in some say 10 years. Theonly way I don’t go into “tank mode” the last 10 games of the season is if bysome miracle this team had 38 or more wins heading into the last 10 games andhad a chance to get up to 44 or 45 that would make them a 5 or 6 seed – but Idon’t think they are capable of winning that many games with the lack ofpermiter/3-point shooting.
I think realistically we win 28-32 games this season andthen with the right draft picks in next years draft plus a key free agent acquisitionand that is when the Hornets can make the “OKC Jump” when they went from 23-59to 50-32.
"The Charlotte Hornets name has been a mainstay throughout the region for many years, and we are excited to announce our intention to re-establish this historic brand. We believe that its return will galvanize our fan base by unifying our loyal Bobcats fans with those who have strong memories of our city's NBA predecessor." MJ, 5-21-13
Atlanta basically just switched Millsap for Smith, kept core together (minus Zaza), got a potential coaching upgrade... still looks good to me...
After Wall's return the Wiz' were a .500 ballclub. With an healthy Wall and Porter producing somewhat, looks like 8 seed to me.
Detroit got Jennings and Smith. Playoff bound with Dre and Monroe rebounding like beasts.
Cavs are in playoff contentiin too. The roster is deep, Miles, Gee and Clark are nice pieces to support the franchise pieces. A healthy Bynum is the best center in the East.
Bucks; is a Knight/Mayo/Delfino/Neal/Ridnour rotation really that much worse than Jennings/Ellis/Dunleavy/0.5 season Reddick/Moute They upgraded tbe defense too with Zaza.... looks like a non-tank to me...
Toronto is a wildcard, the new GM could blow things up for assets and expirings any time - fire sale -
Boston is still competitive with Rondo - Wallace - Green - Olynyk - Sullinger - Humphries - Brooks - Bradley
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I love the enthusiasm and homer glasses you view things through
Nothing wrong with being hopeful, but saying we're easily a 45 win team, plus the deepest bench in the league?....
What you see is potential, and I'm with you in that I like the talent of our young guys. But here's a couple things. Our talent is in the developmental stage, with 3 of them in the early stages (Biz, MKG, and until he proves it in the regular season and not summer league, Taylor), 1 unproven (Zeller has tantalizing talent, but has to prove it first), and 2 more still coming into their own (Kemba, and to a lesser extent Hendo).
Even if you think Hendo is a star, you can't say he's arrived yet, because he hasn't fully reached his potential individually or made a great impact on the league for a long period of time for him to get notice. So thats 6 rotation players that are in the development stage and learning how to play against grown men. It takes time, mostly til players are 24-25 to truly understand and reach their prime. Thats at least couple years for most of them.
So I think they can get there, but we can't assume everyone is suddenly going to get it right now.
Second, we have a completely new coaching staff and system for the third straight year. That is not an easy thing for even a veteran team, even much more so for a young team. That means that everything they learned has to go out the window, and they have to learn new terms, plays, approaches, etc. So instead of working on execution like teams with veteran coaches, our guys have to spend the time to learn and understand. This also takes time, at least half a season to a full season. And it does make a huge difference.
Third, we have a first time coach who we're not sure his system works. Some coaches' systems are better than others, some coaches are meant to be assistant developmental coaches. I think Clifford is going to be like Thibs and the Van Gundys, but we can't assume yet. He may be in over his head like Dunlap, we just can't say.
So thats 3 main things that have a strong effect on the winning record. Yes, I think we have solid guys all around, but you have to allow a period for adjustment, learning, and development, and not heap such grand expectations of an easy 45 win season and a 5th seed. Potentially in the future, sure, but I'd be supremely shocked if we get anywhere close to that.
Last edited by QC Thundercats; 08-02-2013 at 06:02 PM.
Lol deepest bench in the league. We are hardly making the playoffs, I bet Boston has a better record than us too. Raptors, pistons, hawks, Cavs, and wiz will make the playoffs before we do.
Any one sporting GMIPT you got to respect
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