I feel like this is the first time in a while that we've had a relatively good player at every position, and depth at most of them. Obviously, we're far from a serious playoff team, but it feels nice to feel like we're not riding down the street on a flat every night. While this may not lead to us getting Wiggins, at least it will be nice to have a full basketball team without guys playing out of position every night.
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SF needs a lot of improvement... We aren't a threat at all even with acquiring Al Jeff and cody
Not only the starting 5 is legit, also the bench mob led by Sessions, Taylor, and Biz in the first wave, and McRoberts, Gordon, and Haywood in the second wave are all legit NBA players.
Through improvements of the core players, 35 wins are possible.
3 Players in Top 10 at their position in PER (Kemba,Hendo, Big Al) , a extremely talented and versatile rookie in Zeller, and a developing MKG who is already a good defender.
Sessions, (who is in top 15 PER at PG), Ben Gordon, Jeff Taylor , McBob, and Smack.
Thats a pretty damn decent team.
Last edited by bes628; 07-27-2013 at 11:28 AM.
To me, it's not even about winning or losing. It's about having players in positions that have some skill and normally play that position. That has to make life easier for everyone else, especially our point guards. I feel like this will help our young players tremendously in terms of learning to play their roles really well rather than constantly having to switch positions to cover up team deficiencies. Again, I'm not saying we have any kind of contender. We just have a real basketball team.
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i will be playing the role of debbie downer.
i don't see what you guys are seeing. aside form big al, we have not upgraded any other position. we are speculating on huge levels of improvement that may not/prob won't happen. plus big al is infinitely better offensively than any option we had last year, but at the very kindest, slightly worse defensively so i don't see his addition being the difference in 7-10 wins.
for this thread to bear fruit, hendo would have to play like he did during the last 15 games last year (a time when teams already in playoff position begin pulling back and teams really start tanking for the lotto) the entire season. kemba has to become a 20/6-8 guy, mkg has to develop a very reliable 18 ft jumper and massively improve in all areas of the game. zeller has to be ROY and avg 15-17/7-9.
i think we will be much more competitive in more games this year, but i am just not buying the premise of this thread.
Chef, I may not be conveying what I'm trying to say well.
I'm not saying that we have a great team or are ready to go to the playoffs. I'm saying, we have an actual contributing center playing center. We have an actual power forward playing power forward. We aren't trying to put round pegs in square holes, which I feel like we've been doing since the 2010 season. We definitely need to upgrade some positions and probably trade some quantity for quality. But in the meantime, we have guys to play all of the roles. It may not sound like much, but it's exciting to me.
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I can go with this premise. I think we do have legit players, albeit not stars, at every position. We're maybe being a bit presumptuous where Zeller is concerned (if he even starts) since SL is all that's legitimizing him right now. And as I've stated several times I'm not sold on MKG yet, but with all that said, I agree it's definitely the first time since the playoff year we haven't had a guy starting for us who clearly wouldn't be a starter on most other teams.
What's also nice is having every presumed starter locked up for at least the next two years. I think a lack of continuity has hurt us as much as anything. We don't have a single guy who's been a starter at his position for 3 full seasons. With Hendo's signing, hopefully we can have some stability in our line up so that our core can begin to gel. Now if we can just keep a coach more than a year we'll be in business.
We can definitely afford to upgrade some areas, but for the first time in recent memory we have a core that has an appropriate balance of talented veterans, promising young players, and no bad contracts (I'm not counting Gordon since he's expiring and since we strategically took him on to get a draft pick). I think there's reason for optimism.
I think the premise of the thread is valid based on both actual production at some positions and presumed ability and talent at the others. The SF (MKG) and PF (Zeller) positions are still unproven at this point to say we are set for sure, although I feel their potential and flashes of talent are enough to feel good about going forward.
Regarding Kemba and Hendo, I think looking at the last quarter of the season is very telling. That is when the coaching and learning during the season starts to show for young players. Those two were excellent together to close out the season, and I'd say our backcourts' production was among the best in the league for the last 20 games.
Kemba: 19.7 points, 6.1 assists, 3.6 rebounds, 2.2 steals, 5.7 FT attempts
Hendo: 21 points, 3.7 assists, 4 rebounds, 1.3 steals, 6.5 FT attempts
I haven't done the research, but how many teams can claim their backcourt averaged 41 points, 10 assists, 8 rebounds, 3.5 steals per game? The free throws are telling to me, because it shows the aggressiveness of those two to go on the attack. That was the big thing against Hendo, that he was too passive. But because it was a consistent 20 games of really good production for both instead of just a couple games here or there like they had done the previous couple of years, it seems they were starting to understand the game better and how to impact it.
Our backcourt, combined with our improved front court, and the development of MKG and Taylor at the SF spot, I do feel we have legit players and backups at every spot. How good they become I'm sure is the question Chef is trying bring up to keep things in perspective, but I feel good about the team and their potential.