the defender who has stood out to me the most this year in the post is actually big al. it could easily be a case of super low expectations, but i have seen him play very stout on ball post defense. he is as ground bound as me, but he has really surprised me. he can not be backed down and does a pretty good job poking the ball and disrupting shots on the way up.
Biz is coming along. He's nothing special yet, and I still don't think he and Al are a good match together unless you have a 3-point threat at small forward, but he's developing. It's like I've said, he was always a very long-term project with an uncertain outcome. Just let him play a role this year and work on his game. MKG's hand fracture does open up some possible Biz-Al pairings with the right backcourt, though.
Hmm, this article from Rufus On Fire begs to differ:
There's also the terrific bench frontcourt of Jeff Adrien and Bismack Biyombo, who rank first and third on the team in individual defensive rating, respectively. Both players have defensive ratings well below the overall team mark, and are a big part of the reason why the Bobcats defense is as strong as it is. To single out another individual, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist has often been tasked with defending the opposition's best perimeter scorer, and has shown his ability to shut down his matchup. This was perhaps most notable in a win against the Knicks in early November, when Carmelo Anthony finished only 10-for-28 from the floor, and most of his successful field goals came when Kidd-Gilchrist was on the bench.Defensive Rebounding: The Bobcats are an above-average team on the offensive boards as well, but they really shine recovering after a missed shot to prevent any extra opportunities. As of December 4, their defensive rebounding percent of 77.4 is tied for first in the NBA with the Spurs. Biyombo ranks second in the NBA in this stat among qualified players, and Adrien and Jefferson are both ranked highly as well.
or we could use the nba.com/stats page
anyway you dice it with statistics, biz is not a net positive defensive force.
ps: i like biz and would like to see the cats stick with him as he learns how to play.
pps: ROF is a trash site. this is and realgm are far superior fan sites
Last edited by Chef; 12-05-2013 at 10:03 PM.
I really don't know/care how RoF got those numbers b/c ultimately IMO stats are teh ghey, they may very well be wrong. By doing the dreaded 'watching the games' I'd surmise that your numbers paint Biz in a bad light b/c he's generally playing alongside some of the worst teammates now like Taylor, Gordon, Tolliver, Zeller and Sessions. Are 2nd unit is always murdered on defense, Biz primarily plays with the 2nd unit (if at all), therefore his defensive numbers suck b/c he can't offset the terrible defense of his teammates. Conversely, Jefferson sucks at defense but his stats aren't bad b/c he plays with Kemba (good defender), Gerald (good defender), MKG (great defender) and McBob (average defender).
Do your stats take that into account at all?
Eh, that still doesn't really take into account the context in which those minutes were played that can't be quantified plus it's only been like 19 games in so I'm going to play the "small sample size" card. You'll never convince me of stats when my eyes tell me otherwise but I do enjoy the conversation all these statistics creates.
Chef are you taking into account the lineups both guys play with? Biz racking up most of his minutes with bench players like Sessions, Zeller, and Tolliver while Jefferson has MKG, Hendo, and Kemba can have a big impact.
Either way, I feel like you're being slightly blinded by "numbers" in this account. I haven't had the opportunity to watch as many games as you guys this year but he's looked like a much smarter defender and better rebounder this year.