How will May's injury impact the team?

[spectre]

You forgot Lewis. Do we expect Mek to guard him out to the 3 pt line?

And Howard will take it INTO Hollins...his aggression in going to the hole is one his biggest strengths.

[Mustachio]

We can only hope. I hope he comes out and kicks butt this year to hush his critics and up his value....

Well ever sence MAY goes down all we talking about how good Ammo is going to be . No one seems to care how thin we are up frount. If we don't make sone kind of move to add a big . Don't come back crying when we win 35 games this year tops. No May don't make that big of a differance by his self. But when you forced to start a project at the five you can't blame the kid . You have to blame the higher ups for not handling the problem. BUT when we lose because of all this just put Ammo in . He seems to be the savior and you be happy to lose.................. Most of you agree Amoo is the answer to the problem i don't. He MIGHT be a decent role player but thats it.

Dav buddy i think your reading too much into this. I understand that we are thin up front, what i dont understand is this sense of urgency after May went down for good. I like many others had already gameplanned around him. kind of expecting him to miss at least 40 games. I dont think Ammo is the savior. I dont even care if he starts. I want the best matchup out there possible with the team we have. I am more than welcoming a new big body here... but i also dont think its the end of the world if we dont get one.

You can say all you want that Ammo is slow, and doesnt try and hell i cant really argue with the doesnt try part sometimes. Sometimes he does seem lazy, but the slow part i disagree with. Ive seen the boy sprint down court on a fast break and hes got more speed than plenty of people. I actually think a lineup of
Ray/Rich/Ammo/Crash/Mek will hurt some people for stretches of a game. Thats a lot of firepower wether you wanna believe it or not. You cant have the whole team going for alley oops all day. So Ammo might be a great mix in between Crash and Rich. The oop or easy dunk isnt open on a fast break? Ray buddy just dish it to the trailer adam morrison and let him put in 2 or 3 points for you.

[Mustachio]

You forgot Lewis. Do we expect Mek to guard him out to the 3 pt line?

And Howard will take it INTO Hollins...his aggression in going to the hole is one his biggest strengths.

i didnt forget about Lewis at all. Just figured i didnt need to address it. in that scenario id more than welcome Hermann to guard Lewis... but i also think Hollins is as atheletic if not more than Hermann... so he can hang with lewis while Oak guards Dwight.

heres where im questioning the panic about May.... COULD MAY GUARD LEWIS AT THE 3 point line!? heck no. could Mark Jackson... no. So why get upset when they wouldnt even be in the game in this scenario. We have two to three players that can play in the PF spot and effectively guard Lewis right now. Hermann, Hollins, maybe Dudley depending on what he shows. Not saying he wouldnt get points... just saying they could semi contain him... where as May or Jackson would get smoked.

and again... Lewis and Howard are gonna get their points no matter what. shut down the rest of the team and go from there.

[dav7z]

Its not just may , Its three bigs. Premoz is at home and don't know if he wants to play [NO CONCERN] Read this real GM THREAD
We need to do somthing fast. No we can't afford to let Hollins get 40 droped on him ever night.





http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?topic=716047

[spectre]

Heh...well you posted "Just coach Hollins to play with his hands in the air and make it a little tough on Dwight", so the only players left not mentioned is Mek and Lewis...so maybe it DID need to be addressed.

There's going to be an issue there. Hollins won't be able to stay with Lewis nor will Primoz, and if we let both of those guys go for 30 each we aren't going to win. The only guy Mek can effectively defend is Howard, so if it was up to me I guess I'd start out with:

Felton/JRich/Crash/Fabio/Mek...play Crash on Lewis and Fabio on Hedo. Duds would get a lot of time on Lewis/Hedo as well as Primoz/Hollins/Davidson backing up Mek against Dwight.

That last line is where Dav and others of us see the problem. Those last 3 aren't good post defenders and will probably give up a LOT of "and ones". We really need a big to at the least make Dwight earn it on the FT line.

[chabber]

Heh...well you posted "Just coach Hollins to play with his hands in the air and make it a little tough on Dwight", so the only players left not mentioned is Mek and Lewis...so maybe it DID need to be addressed.

There's going to be an issue there. Hollins won't be able to stay with Lewis nor will Primoz, and if we let both of those guys go for 30 each we aren't going to win. The only guy Mek can effectively defend is Howard, so if it was up to me I guess I'd start out with:

Felton/JRich/Crash/Fabio/Mek...play Crash on Lewis and Fabio on Hedo. Duds would get a lot of time on Lewis/Hedo as well as Primoz/Hollins/Davidson backing up Mek against Dwight.

That last line is where Dav and others of us see the problem. Those last 3 aren't good post defenders and will probably give up a LOT of "and ones". We really need a big to at the least make Dwight earn it on the FT line.

Exactly, if only we could have pulled off the same trade Seattle got with Phoenix before we signed Gerald and Matt. We'd have been far enough under the cap to take on Kurt Thomas one year salary and he'd have given us a good post defender, rebounder and spot up shooter plus the 2 first rounders.

I don't expect us to play the matchup game in pre-season but when the regular season rolls around I hope we see Vincent making adjustments like mentioned above if Hollins is the regular starter. As far as we know he doesn't cause match up problems anywhere or bring enough to the starting core to justify not playing Herrmann in his place when playing a guy like Lewis. I don't like coaches that say we do it our way and try to make the other team change. Matchups are one of the biggest parts of basketball especially in the playoffs. We'll see really soon how good of a coach he is in this area.

Vs Orlando I'd do this:

Felton vs. Nelson
J Rich vs. Redick/Bogans/Ariza(whoever they start)
Wallace vs. Lewis
Herrmann vs. Hedo
Mek vs. Dwight

[Mustachio]

guys your preaching to the choir! I know we need another big man... hell every team in the league wants another big man.

the problem lies in the abundance of effective big men. I understand we need another big man... we can move past that point i never said we didnt need one. I just dont know where the hell you think your gonna find one.

Marc Jackson is in Europe now. and really isnt the answer were looking for as far as im concerned. Just cause hes big and been in the league for a while doesnt make him the effective player we want.
Andy Varejao will cost too much and really isnt an option.
and no one is gonna trade a big for Adam Morrison so just forget that idea.


Im just trying to create ways we can deal with this with what we have. We are almost full up on the roster and pretty cap stretched right now, at least in Bobs eyes. So instead of telling me whats wrong when i already know... tell me how to fix it.

[bobcatsden]

Mustachio is right. It's time to start talking about the Hollins/Primoz tandem, which is almost surely going to be our center corp moving forward.

Regarding Hollins v. Dwight Howard..... we'll find out tomorrow night, I guess.

[chabber]

At this point there isn't a fix unless it's via a trade but we've known that since around the time Wallace/Carroll were signed and it appeared we weren't going after Darko and Varejao for money reasons. I don't blame them as they were both wanting too much cash for their productivity. At that point it was apparent that one of either Hollins or Davidson one would play a role this season unless Sean May became healthy. I think the surprise is that Primoz isn't here and that Vincent has inserted Hollins as starter over Herrmann but that doesn't mean he'll play more minutes.

[spectre]

Mustachio is right. It's time to start talking about the Hollins/Primoz tandem, which is almost surely going to be our center corp moving forward.

Regarding Hollins v. Dwight Howard..... we'll find out tomorrow night, I guess.

Do you think that Coach V will be so inflexible that he won't adjust the PT due to matchup issues? I certainly hope not, because if that's the case we in for one very long season.

And the Primoz/Hollins tandem is exactly what we're talking about. Mek has problems guarding Howard...so I don't think it's a stretch to think Hollins or Primoz is going to get owned in the paint by him.

Neither of those guys could stay out of foul trouble against average post players...do we really believe Hollins has progressed THAT much

And then there's Lewis.

I agree Chabber, Howard would have been huge for us.