How bad would it have to get for Vincent to be fired by the end of the season?

[davcbow]

I say give it some time at least till all-star break and lets see if things change for the better if not then weight all the options and execute when the season is over. I think its just growing pains, rookie coach; come on guys he dont have all the answers as a rookie coach. We had 2 crutcial players we were counting to be healthy out for the season. We have no one to back up Mek no matter if he plays C or PF we need a 4 if he plays 5 we need a 5 if he plays 4, Im talking starter to go with Felts, J-Rich, Wallace, Mek, ??, due to the way V likes to play his players. I think the only solution this season is a trade, but I wouldnt want to go that route unless its a trade we cant refuse. After this season we need to dump McInnis and Harrington right off the bat and figure out whats up with Mek's contract and figure out what we are going to do about Herrmann, I like him and wish coach would start him at the 4 spot and let Mek play the 5 spot this season so he can show us all what he can really do, maybe hushing alot of his critics and making a believer of V. As the team sits at this moment I think we should draft a big and another PG and work the FA market, but of course this all depends on whats trades we make if any....

[Edrow]

Easy question. An all out mutiny.

-Edrow

[babyj42]

give it time guys... he is a rookie coach and a very young one at that... we will and should give him time

[Wallace15]

No matter how bad it gets this year, he won't get fired. Now, if next season we were to finish 20-30 games below .500 then he'll be gone.

Just wondering, how good to you guys think we would be doing if we had hired SVG has our coach?

[spectre]

You'd need a lot of assumptions...like Fabio coming in presumably as a starter like a lot of us thought this summer.  You'd also have to think we'd have began with simpler offensive sets, which changes a lot of things. 

Mek - Dwight
Crash - Lewis
Fabio - Turk
Jrich - Bogans
Felton - Nelson

I think most of us would agree Dwight is better than Mek...but not that much.  The rest is pretty close though.

We'd probably still have lost to Philly without Felts and also the Suns.  We'd have won the Houston, Boston & Washington game, probably the Chicago games, maybe Atlanta, Magic and the Heat.

13-5 maybe?

[babyj42]

we have to realize that while Van Gundy is a great coach he is not a miracle worker... howard does outshine oak even head to head... we are just not as talented and deep as other teams are... we get either morrison or may to be consistant next year and we should be fine... i just think we expected both of them to be a key part of our line up... we will be much better if we try to improve next year... we have new players without much time playing together... this year we are trying to:

1. start a new system
2. ask 5 starters all under the age of 27 to be consistant
3. bring in 2 new starters and want great impact from guys like ryan hollins who was the 50th person in last years draft to bhave a major impact
4. We are SO young

just be patient

[ziggy]

we have to realize that while Van Gundy is a great coach he is not a miracle worker... howard does outshine oak even head to head... we are just not as talented and deep as other teams are... we get either morrison or may to be consistant next year and we should be fine... i just think we expected both of them to be a key part of our line up... we will be much better if we try to improve next year... we have new players without much time playing together... this year we are trying to:

1. start a new system
2. ask 5 starters all under the age of 27 to be consistant
3. bring in 2 new starters and want great impact from guys like ryan hollins who was the 50th person in last years draft to bhave a major impact
4. We are SO young

just be patient

Welcome to BobcatsPlanet babyj42,
Glad to see you bringing some some positivity. The last 10 games have been rough and over that stretch a lot of us (myself included) have been down on the team and the staff..
Its good to see some positive words.

[davcbow]

we have to realize that while Van Gundy is a great coach he is not a miracle worker... howard does outshine oak even head to head... we are just not as talented and deep as other teams are... we get either morrison or may to be consistant next year and we should be fine... i just think we expected both of them to be a key part of our line up... we will be much better if we try to improve next year... we have new players without much time playing together... this year we are trying to:

1. start a new system
2. ask 5 starters all under the age of 27 to be consistant
3. bring in 2 new starters and want great impact from guys like ryan hollins who was the 50th person in last years draft to bhave a major impact
4. We are SO young

just be patient

I agree with you and welcome to BobcatsPlanet. I usually have the possitive attitude but I do get ticked off at times when we lose because we blow it in the 4th quarter (coaching? players? both?) or come out in the 1st quarter throwing bricks and not playing defence (players? coaching? both?). I say give it more time and then do something if it is needed....

[timang]

if we get a lot less wins than last year. that definitely would speak "yanking out of coaching contract" for him.

[babyj42]

and of course his link to jordan should buy him some time... i just wanna evaluate the team at the end of the year before we throw him under the bus