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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    What if we did get a new coach? We would still have the same up one night down the next squad of players (dont get me wrong I love these guys), he would have to be a great motivator. Now would this new coach have a different line up or would he end up playing the same line ups because of the talent we have left and not on the injured list. I really think that RV went to war missing a few key weapons (morrison & may). Thats like being in a war on the battle field and the tanks never show up or air support dont show up, meaning youre gonna lose the battle. I think we should just bear with it this season and then judge once he has all his weapons back...
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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    Quote Originally Posted by davcbow
    What if we did get a new coach? We would still have the same up one night down the next squad of players (dont get me wrong I love these guys), he would have to be a great motivator. Now would this new coach have a different line up or would he end up playing the same line ups because of the talent we have left and not on the injured list. I really think that RV went to war missing a few key weapons (morrison & may). Thats like being in a war on the battle field and the tanks never show up or air support dont show up, meaning youre gonna lose the battle. I think we should just bear with it this season and then judge once he has all his weapons back...
    I have to disagree. Vincent is killing the team by the negative chemistry he brings to the table. Our nukes are there, Jrich and Gerald. Any good coach could get them to win us .500. They are great players, and with little weapons like matt carroll who you can pick and pop, this team has so much potential, but he doesnt know how to utilize it.

    If you have a rocket but cannot get it to shoot, what good is it in the battle? None. Sean May and Ammo are not individually good enough to have pushed this team much further. I don't even what Ammo on our team next year, hes a joke an NBA player that smokes. He is horrendous on D and streaky on offense. Ultimate scrub. Why couldnt we have picked RUDY? O well. Vincent is just another problem on the list

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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    Sam Vincent is never going to gain the respect and loyalty of his players if he repeatedly continues to throw his players under the bus in the media. At some point the players are going to give up on him completely ( if they haven't done so already ).

    Also, I have a bad feeling about this upcoming 5 game road trip. If it turns out ugly they could wind up being 14 or 15 games under .500 after that trip. Maybe that'll be enough to make them start considering the need to make a coaching change.
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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    It's probably too early for a change. But great coaches only, if ever, use the media to motivate players. And only certain ones. Maybe Jeff will respond to that. Clearly, Crash and J-Rich play their ass of every night.

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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    MJ needs to be a man, admit his mistake, and fire Sam Vincent.

    Sam Vincent is not the next Avery Johnson...heck if anything he's the next Tim Floyd. He's a horrible coach, his players don't listen to him, he's terrible with the media (i.e. throwing his players under the bus or saying the team isn't good enough).

    The Bobcats need someone ESTABLISHED to lead them. Bernie Bickerstaff was an established coach, who turned around the Washington Bullets back in the day and took the reins of this team and got the BEST out of them. Now that he's moved on, we need to find someone with experience and motivation. Look at what Hubie Brown did with a young Memphis team his first couple seasons. It can be done if we look for the right person. The Bobcats need someone who is creative, yet can teach fundamentals, teach maturity, and chew into the team when they need it...directly, not through the media.

    Sam Vincent is a joke, pure and simple. He needs to be fired before we're turned into the laughingstock of the NBA, especially if MJ continues to make moves like he did in Washington.

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    MJ's biggest mistake so far has been signing Vincent, other then that, hes pretty good in my book. Hopefully he will talk to mek so we can figure out whether we should resign him, and not give him to much money, and then he can ditch Vincent and we will be a pretty good team.

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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    Vincent not management wanted Mcinnis ., REMRMBER Vincent saying after playing and practicing with Mcinnis, that he would be a great team leader and back up to Felton. Thats why management signed him.Vincent has goten ever thing hes ask for. First a scorer so M.J, signed one in J.Rich. Second Vincent wanted to keep the team toghter so M.J resigns Wallace to 57 milion. Third Vincent says his five is not producing so M.J trades for a nice five in Nazr.
    Then MJ. practices with the team after a long loosing streak and and the very next game they look like a different team.
    Another loosing streak and a pep talk from M.J. changes things again.
    After all this this dude has the balls to Blame the players in frunt of the media.
    I have yet heard him take the blame for ANY loss.Im not the smartest guy in the world but i even know hes responable for at least seven of our loses due to his stupid coaching.He sure as hell don't blane his self.
    Another great move after a loss you responable for coach V,You through your Stars in the craper . Even you throughing Mcinnis, in the craper pisses me off.

    We have to make a trade or add a player befor the trade deadlind. And M.J. is going to have to force that dumb ass to extend his rotation. With all the road games coming up.
    Or one of our stars is going to have a major injery or somthing.


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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    When they interviewed Jeff and asked him about what Sam said, and he sounded so sad to the point that I even felt a little bit sorry for him. He really didn't seem to know what to say and said as much. I mean, Jeff isn't putting himself in the game all the time. It's not that he doesn't try, but he doesn't have the talent to be a starter. However, NO PLAYER at this level would decline playing time (or they don't have the confidence to play at this level). This is on Radio (I need an angrier nickname, that one's too funny).

    I really think Matt's summed it up perfectly here and in the Chemistry Thread.
    I'll be interested to see what changes occur to the line-up on Monday.

    Hopefully, though, the biggest change is Sam's dismissal. Make it happen MJ.

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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    Quote Originally Posted by Muttley
    When they interviewed Jeff and asked him about what Sam said, and he sounded so sad to the point that I even felt a little bit sorry for him. He really didn't seem to know what to say and said as much. I mean, Jeff isn't putting himself in the game all the time. It's not that he doesn't try, but he doesn't have the talent to be a starter. However, NO PLAYER at this level would decline playing time (or they don't have the confidence to play at this level). This is on Radio (I need an angrier nickname, that one's too funny).

    I really think Matt's summed it up perfectly here and in the Chemistry Thread.
    I'll be interested to see what changes occur to the line-up on Monday.

    Hopefully, though, the biggest change is Sam's dismissal. Make it happen MJ.
    I don't think anyone here at Bobcats Planet has an aversion to Jeff, we just don't want him playing the minutes he gets.

    And I think the most telling thing about Radio's crazy rants, is that they are never at the appropriate party or at the appropriate time. I've never seen him dig into the players during game time. We can be getting schlacked and he is mr. cool and collecting, on the bench, about to fall asleep. I like to see fire in my coach and I've always felt he was lacking in that department.

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    Default Re: FIRE SAM VINCENT

    It seems the past few weeks that Sam actually has been getting emotionally involved. It's just recently though. I've seen him grill a few of the players pretty hard.

    Watching him do that to Emeka Okafor was a little funny though. Mek just looked at him with dead eyes. He's probably thinking "Dude, just don't go there" lol.
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