FIRE SAM VINCENT

[davcbow]

Im for "ANYTHING" that improves our team, be it trades or firing the coach and I dont care who we lose to make things better. Something drastic needs to be done to salvage the rest of the season. If we turn it around now we could still have a chance for the playoffs but as it is right now we cant beat our way out of a wet soggy paper bag unless they are just worse off than we are.....

[ohara831]

There is a reason why I would trade for draft picks. Let's take Okafor for example. I have been seeing people yell about his taking only 2 shots in the last game, and combining that with "fire Vincent" talk. Why? Does anyone beleive Sam went up to Okafor before the game and said: " Okafor, you have sucked lately, so only take 2 shots tonight. Even if you're open, no more than 2." No. The problem is with the player. Okafor has not played well or hard in WEEKS!! Even with the Hawks doing better than expected, if Phoenix would give us both the Atlanta 1st and their own 1st, I'd give them Okafor. Then, there are teams crying for a PG who can challenge for the lead PG but at least be groomed for a starter down the line. We know Felton tries, but is more of a combo guard. But there will be someone who is sure that HE is a great enough coach to bring out the greatness in Ray. There is another 1st rounder. Now, with our own which will be a Lottery for sure, the Atlanta pick which MAY be a Lottery, another which I don't know yet (depends on who takes Ray) and the Phoeniz pick which will be late 1st. That is 4 1st rounders. Suppose with our 2 highest picks we get DeAndre Joprdan and DJ Augustine. Right there you have a legitimate big time Center who will be able to grow and challenge Dwight Howard - whom we will have to deal with for the next 10 years - and a PG who is already better than Felton in the eyes of many. Read up on him, the kid is special. Then, with the other 2 picks, suppose we are in the late teens with one of them. Well, the PF Kevin Love from UCLA is expected to be there late teens. Then, with the late pick, we take the best available. Or, we take our 2nd and combine with the late Phoenix to move up 3-4 slots. From this draft, we can come put with a legit big time Center, PG and PF. Combine that with J-Rich and Crash, and I love that as a starting 5 to deal with for the next 10 years. Then, with some of the guys off the bench, including a hopefully well healed Ammo (I don't expect May back), Dudley, Davidson and maybe a Carroll with some confidence, we will be young and studly. Right now, we are young and dudly (and I don't mean Dudley).

I know many prefer to go for wiley FA veterans. But, no one is interested in playing for us until we start to show we can win. We do not have the players right not who can win. We do not. Don't blame the coach alone. It is him, management and underachieving players to blame.

J-Rich is short on defense, yes. But his offense and Crash's all round ass busting game have been the ONLY bright lights the past few weeks. I have lost faith in Ray, and lost faith in Okafor. Let me get what I can for them now before the rest of the league starts to see them for what they are really worth. Then, well be stuck with them. Yes, it is a gamble. Just like poker. You have to know when to hold em, and when to fold em. It is time to fold em, cause if we hold em, we are going to get burned.

[davcbow]

The only thing I dont like about all these draft picks is you never really know what your getting in a rookie. He may turn out like May or worse, or then again he may turn out like MJ, its always a gamble....

[bizzlecatz]

These players may have something special, but if we are not going to help them with their development, they will be avarage just like Mek and Felts.

Michael Jordan is a good example: You think the Bulls didn't have a hand in helping him become the superstar he is today, or LaBron for that matter. You want rookies that this expansion organization can't afford to develop properly right now, which would bring us back to square one over and over again.

I rather develop Mek and Felts through playing time, and a good coach who can point out and help them with their weaknesses in order for them to be successful, but you have great vision and a very well thought out plan

[jaxatax23]

if we had 4 draft picks then we BETTER make sure we trade up and get derrick rose...augistine is good but rose takes it to a whole nother level...think bigger chris paul with great dunking ability...i cant even imagine having him jrich an wallace running a fast break

[babyj42]

HE SUCKS FIRE HIS ASS... nothing more

[ohara831]

if we had 4 draft picks then we BETTER make sure we trade up and get derrick rose...augistine is good but rose takes it to a whole nother level...think bigger chris paul with great dunking ability...i cant even imagine having him jrich an wallace running a fast break

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Oh. I love Rose. but he will be gone in the first 2 picks. I dont see us falling that far - yet. But dont discount Augustine. That kid has serious game and is not a bad 2nd choice at all.

[wil]

As stated in the Nets game thread...I warned one and all that if they started Mcinnis that I would have officially lost faith in Vincent's decision making. I don't need to go into detail as it's obvious the reasons why.

Feel Free to state your support in having Vincent gone!

IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS AND WANT VINCENT GONE, WHY DON'T ALL OF US HERE NOT ATTEND ALL THEIR GAMES, NOT VISIT ALL THEIR SITES (INCLUDING THIS ONE), NOT LISTEN TO ALL RADIO BROADCAST, NOT WATCH ALL TELEVISED GAMES, ETC.. UNTIL THEY FIRE COACH SAM VINCENT

[ziggy]

As stated in the Nets game thread...I warned one and all that if they started Mcinnis that I would have officially lost faith in Vincent's decision making. I don't need to go into detail as it's obvious the reasons why.

Feel Free to state your support in having Vincent gone!

IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS AND WANT VINCENT GONE, WHY DON'T ALL OF US HERE NOT ATTEND ALL THEIR GAMES, NOT VISIT ALL THEIR SITES (INCLUDING THIS ONE), NOT LISTEN TO ALL RADIO BROADCAST, NOT WATCH ALL TELEVISED GAMES, ETC.. UNTIL THEY FIRE COACH SAM VINCENT

Because regardless of how bad they are playing, I am a fan and I'm going to watch them play and attend the games when I can and gripe very loudly when they play like they have been playing lately.

Also, this site has no effect on the Bobcats bottom line, the only one that would hit them in the wallet if you chose not to visit is Bobcats.com. Boycotting their site and games isn't going to get us a new coach though in my opinion.

[davcbow]

Ticket sales $$$$$$$$$$ is where it hits. Hate to say it but thats the facts.....