A Few Trade Thoughts...

[spectre]

Kupchak Unsure About Re-Signing Odom

Odom looks like he might be available and he's making a little less than 14 million left on a 1 yr deal...would we be interested? He either works out and we re-sign him (we'd have Bird Rights) or else we get a huge expiring.

Random thought: say we trade Crash + Ammo (or Hammer) for Odom + Farmar...draft Mayo.

Felts/Farmar
Mayo/Hammer
Swish/Duds
Odom/McMay/Davidson
Mek/Nazr/Hollins

Bad?

[MattD]

trade junkies correct me if im wrong, but unless he is a restricted free agent, then you cannot "trade" bird rights. Plus he would technically not have a salary wheres crash and hammer would be upwards of 13mill. Plus I love the Gerald is playing, so no!

[ammofan]

Can we please stop undervaluing Mek.

Who is going to be a presence in the paint in either of those groups.

Ammofan, I don't mean any harm, but please stay focused in school

Believe me.....WE DO NOTHING at my school! LOL! I am serious.....no homework, substitutes all the time......the most work I do is eat lunch!

WOW! that puts a new perspective on: Food For Thought

Ammofan your a cool kid

btw, Ammo need to clean it up a bit, on the sidelines, he looks like he sell trailers door to door

Thanks.....

[spectre]

trade junkies correct me if im wrong, but unless he is a restricted free agent, then you cannot "trade" bird rights.

NBA Salary Cap FAQ

25. How long must a player be with one team before the Larry Bird exception can be used?

Theoretically, a player with Bird rights can be traded at the trade deadline right before becoming a free agent and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. There is no specific tenure requirement with one team. The only rule is that the player can't have been waived or changed teams as a free agent for three seasons. However, if a team renounces a player (see question number 33), they can't use the Bird exception to re-sign him for one year.

Plus he would technically not have a salary wheres crash and hammer would be upwards of 13mill.

You kind of lost me here...Odom is locked in for one more season after this one ends, so we'd be trading the same amount of salary. After the the 08/09 season Odom would be a free agent.

[Slam]

Don't mind the Odom idea. He would provide is with a versitle player who knows how to move the ball

My only concern would be is that he might turn out to be a one year rental. I know that would open up cap space for us, but if he walked after that one year, then we are back to looking for a PF.


How about someone that falls around:

Charlotte Out:
Crash

Charlotte In:
Iggy

Philly out:
Iggy

Philly In:
Bargs
Toronto's 08 1st round pick

Toronto Out:
Bargs
2008 1st round pick

Why for Charlotte:
We get a SG with handles and a good ball IQ would would help with ball movement and spread the floor. Then we use our 2008 1st on a PF (ideally someone like Griffin - if he is in the draft)

Why for Philly:
They need a scoring PF to play next to Dalembert. Bargs is forced to play out of position in TO - which doesn't work well for his game. Plus with the TO 1st round pick they can add PG depth

Why for TO:
They get the SF they long for to round out their starting 5 and put them over the top.

Thoughts?

[dvdbumpus]

I like the trade. Make it happen!

Think they'd consider J-rich also, due to his salary?

[MattD]

You kind of lost me here...Odom is locked in for one more season after this one ends, so we'd be trading the same amount of salary. After the the 08/09 season Odom would be a free agent.

ah. My fault, I though his contract was expiring this summer.

[ohara831]

Iggy plays the SF like Crash. You are calling him a SG. Would you play him at SG and move J-Rich to the SF position? Essentially, from the Charlotte perspective, you are just trading Crash for Iggy. That is a pretty even swap from the player's ability point of view, and we would not have to worry about the Health issue of Crash. But, since Crash is signed to a long and very favorable Contract, would that not entitle us to a little more than just an even swap? What is Iggy's status Contract-wise?

[Slam]

Iggy plays the SF like Crash. You are calling him a SG. Would you play him at SG and move J-Rich to the SF position? Essentially, from the Charlotte perspective, you are just trading Crash for Iggy. That is a pretty even swap from the player's ability point of view, and we would not have to worry about the Health issue of Crash. But, since Crash is signed to a long and very favorable Contract, would that not entitle us to a little more than just an even swap? What is Iggy's status Contract-wise?

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Yes, I would move Swish to the 3 (his more natural position IMO) and play Iggy at the 2. Iggy has the handles and BBIQ to really help in the back court and take some of the pressure off Felts. Like Swish, he can create his own shot.

Ideally I would just trade Crash for Iggy, but that makes no sense for the Sixers - not with Thad Young coming on. What they need is an offensive big, which is what Bargs would give them.

Because of Crash's concussion concerns I don't think we are entitled to anything more.

Iggy's contract situation is the same as EO50's. He passed up money last summer and is a RFA this summer. The deal would probably have to be a S&T

[ohara831]

I just looked that up and saw Iggy would have to be a S & T. Iggy and J-Rich would be every bit as exciting as J-Rich and Crash. I was thinking of the other night when Crash took a shot and had to sit out for a few minutes, and then returned. I think you are right from the perspective of our not getting any additional benefits for Crash's favorable Contract. If a team has to worry about pulling him out every so often after a collision, that could be problematic. God, I'd hate to part with Crash, but getting Iggy in return would be a very good return and I dont think that Cat fans could complain.

From the S&T perspective, how much did Iggy turn down last yr? Will it work with our trading Crash and his salary? Will he be in the same range as Crash's $9.5 mil or is he looking for more? Toronto kicking in Bargs is fine for me, but I'd hate for us to give up more than Crash alone.