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    MattD is offline Bob "I'm Tired of this Shit" Johnson
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    Default Re: Our go to guy at the end of games

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeagle
    That last play happend down at the end of the court where I sat up behind the Kings bench. Raymond was definitely not the first option; Jeff was grimacing that he had no other option than to give it to Raymond in the corner with his back to the basket no less. Too busy watching Jeff to see where he was going to throw it, but he was looking top of the key at first, probably for JRich, though I'm not sure, but a screen must have missed, and Raymond was forced to come to the ball.

    That said, Vincent has no clue about late game strategy. You gotta be kidding me that you can't do a stagger screen or something to get JRich the ball. Seriously, the Kings are good at getting steals, but not that good at ball denial that a well planned screen or two couldn't have gotten him open.
    vincent said after the game he was trying to get it too felton, but maybe mcinnis has more sense then that?

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    Default Re: Our go to guy at the end of games

    Quote Originally Posted by MattD

    vincent said after the game he was trying to get it too felton, but maybe mcinnis has more sense then that?
    Jeezus. That is nauseating to find out that the play was for Raymond. WTF!!! There's no doubt in my mind that Jeff has more sense than Vincent. The incompetence of this guy knows no bounds!!!!! MUTINY!!!!
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    Default Re: Our go to guy at the end of games

    Quote Originally Posted by amour217
    At this rate, our go-to guy at the end of games is Sam Vincent...we blame him for every loss
    I wouldn't say that we make Sam Vincent a scape goat for all our losses but let's not kid ourselves this man has not gotten near the kind of production out of these players that a sub par coach in Bernie Bickerstaff did. Bernie had his players playing hard nearly every game and seemed to respond to his players and their abilities and what worked as the season progressed. I have seen very little hope on this team growing and working in a successful system. Sam Vincent is too set on his ways and is not flexible enough. A good example of a coach who learns how to change and grow is Houston coach Rick Adelman. For a time it looked like Adelman may have lost his touch but the Rockets are taking off as of late and I believe that is the result of a coach who listens to his players and studies the game and learns by trail through fire. A flexible coach is a successful one.

    I will end this by saying that though Sam Vincent is not responsible for every loss he is responsible for blowing quite a few games with dumb logic and he does not seem to have the respect of the players. Bernie Bickerstaff is no HOF coach but he at least had players that responded to him and genuinely wanted to win for him and each other. I see players who only play hard for half or a little more than half a game when it seems they have no confidence in Sam Vincent. Last year the Bobcats played close and competed nearly every game night. The result of that was a strong second half of the season and obvious continuity among the players and coaches. I almost would like to have seen how the momentum of last year would have carried over with Bernie at head coach. He may have cost us some games with bone headed decisions but he also may have been responsible for some wins by being a coach the players liked and respected. I rarely see anything resembling a light hearted moment between coach and players on the bench. Notice the one thing beyond X's and 0's that winning teams have? It is chemistry among coaches and team mates. This team lacks chemistry as much as anything else.

    Well I have vented enough and really probably won't have much else to add on this subject. I just hope the Bobcats get a Super Star in the draft and they dump the coach as well as any other garbage holding this team back.


 

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