The Jerryd Bayless Thread

[MattD]

Ok if we dont get #1, I think we take Bayless where ever we can. I am watching right now and he is really impressive. Ive been off and on for him for a while, im on, probably for good. Hes like Monta but better, maybe combined with gilbert. I love it.


edit: as I watch more, he turns it over a lot but hes only 19. OJ Mayo is a scoring machine.

[Slam]

I wasn't that impressed with Mayo last night. I think that Nick Young looked better at this same stage last year.

Bayless sure does palm the ball a lot!!

Sick dunk though!

[ohara831]

My only concern with Bayless is that he is essentially like Ray. A Combo guard who can shoot well, and play an OK PG but not a really Good PG. I don't think he upgrades us much over Ray, if at all.

[Slam]

He has more poise and plays under control better than Felts does.

He's also a much better shooter.

Not the type of PG I like though - unless I have a LBJ, Roy, JJ, Kobe or Iggy on my team.

[MattD]

would you like gilbert arenas on the bobcats... I would, and he sure is reminding me of him

[Slam]

No, I wouldn't like Gilbert on the Bobcats.

He'd take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many shots away from Swish, Crash and EO50.

I like Gil though. Just not for us. Gil would be good on a team with weaker wings and an offensive big man.

Think Toronto, Orlando, Houston.

[TheBeagle]

He has more poise and plays under control better than Felts does.

Since we only have college to go by, how can you say this kid has more poise than Raymond? Raymond was the orchestrator behind the 2005 NCAA championship team. He drilled a key 3 pointer and FTs late in the game and also got the game-changing steal against Deron Williams. There's no larger stage on the college level than the NCAA championship Monday, and Raymond was brilliant under this pressure.

This guy could turn out to be a better pro, but as long as he is in college, he isn't in the same conversation as Raymond in terms of poise and control!

[Slam]

The term "control" and "Felton" are rarely mentioned together in the same sentence unless "out of" is included.

And if Felton was so "brilliant under that pressure", why is he under achieving now?

[TheBeagle]

The term "control" and "Felton" are rarely mentioned together in the same sentence unless "out of" is included.

And if Felton was so "brilliant under that pressure", why is he under achieving now?

Hmmmm. I agree with your first statement. Here are some examples of those 3 words/phrase being in the same sentence. I can think of quite a few more, but these are my favorites:

1. "Felton", and the "control" he has over this Carolina championship team is "out of" this world

2. Anyone that thinks Bayless, at this point in his career, has more "control" than "Felton" as a point guard is "out of" their minds.

As for your question: I argue he isn't underachieving. He has played out of position his entire pro career, which is not quite 3 years old yet, and furthermore, I don't think the brilliance under pressure he exhibited in college has anything to do with his supposed underachieving in the NBA. As a pro, he has yet to be in any game as pressurepacked as the NCAA championship, and it'll probably take at least a Game 7 of a playoff series to even come within sniffing distance of that pressure.

My argument is don't put some kid who is the PG of a mediocre-at-best college team in the same discussion as a guy who has led a college team to a national championship. To say this guy has more poise and is more under control than Felton is just a terrible assumption to make at this point. Let's see this guy win some games, or be put in a high-pressure situation before putting him ahead of Felton.

[Slam]

I guess it's a pity that Felton can't play the rest of his career at UNC then because that's is where he seemed to play his best?

If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't be talking about guys like Rose, Bayless and Augutin now.

Would we?