I had a horrible realization at the game tonight

[ohara831]

ohara come on buddy... you can hardly blame management for not trying to make the team better. they brought in Jrich and Nazr. thats too pretty large moves for a 4th year franchise team. I feel the mngt want to win. i feel like the players REALLY wanna win. but i feel like neither thinks that it can really happen with the current coach.

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I was referring to the lack of movement around the trade deadline. The J-Rich deal was last Draft, and I do agree that was a solid move. I also liked the Nazr deal. He can be a very very good back up Center. But we need something more than just he and Okafor on the front line if we are going to be competitive.

[ohara831]

I think that Vincent will be back next season.

And because of that, EO50 will not be.

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But a S&T can work to our benefit. Remember, not everyone has watched him like we have this season. I think his value to the rest of the NBA is a little higher than we think. After all, we are the ones who saw him basically "mail it in" for a good 1/2 of the season. If we dangle the carrot, you never know what response you will get. If it is not good enough, we dont make any deals. But you have to listen. Remember, there is a sucker born every day.

[MattD]

I think that Vincent will be back next season.

And because of that, EO50 will not be.

from what i have been reading, I hear thats the truth. I hope when emeka goes somewhere else he slams the crap out of vincent.

[RivenWinner]

While I wasn't expecting big things from us this year, I was hoping to have a semi-decent year. To me, as well as many others out there, the season was a let down.

Hopefully next year we'll be able to have a winning season, but as for being big superstar contenders, well, I give or take a few more years.

The important thing is that fans stay true to the team and weather through these touch times. That's what makes good fans. It's really easy to start yelling and supporting a team that all of the sudden starts doing well. It's during the crappy times when teams need fan support as well.

As for management, well, I dunno. I'm still not sure if Sam is getting the boot or not. But clearly, something needs to be done.

[Keetch]

I've got $500; can I have a minute with Michael Jordan?

[dav7z]

Riven welcome to Bobcatsplanet. Join in and have fun posting about the cats.
I don't expect many changes in the off season . I think we much closer than any of us think.
We a P/F away from being a top four seed in the east . With our core players now . A lot was learned the last twenty games or so .
Felton for one we know can be a very solid point . Im expecting him with his work ethic to average a dubble next season . Like a 18 point 10 assist average wouldn't surprize me at all.
The return of May and Morrison will add much missed debth this year.
We all so learned Rich is that scorer we have been in despret need of.
Felton ,Wallace, Rich , along with Jamison should go along ways with team chemristy.

Ever body on hear wil probely run me off for this one .
Coach Vincent , i noticed got better choaching after the Okafor disagreement. The greats Dean Smith and coach K all most got run out of Carolina after thair first year.
Fired or not i think hes learned alot his rookie year of coaching. The main thing is to listen to his players.

By just adding a p/f and a nice draft pick. and filling the roster with vetrans who can contribute. Keeping coach Vincent or not we should go to the play offs easy.

I think starting Mcinnis cost us more games than any other reason this past year. We played 500 ball after we let him go . I think next year is much brighter than any of us think.

[TheBeagle]

I've got $500; can I have a minute with Michael Jordan?

Let's see....no. $500 would give you the chance to stand 20 feet from him for 45 seconds though!

[Keetch]

Ever body on hear wil probely run me off for this one .
Coach Vincent , i noticed got better choaching after the Okafor disagreement. The greats Dean Smith and coach K all most got run out of Carolina after thair first year.
Fired or not i think hes learned alot his rookie year of coaching. The main thing is to listen to his players.

By just adding a p/f and a nice draft pick. and filling the roster with vetrans who can contribute. Keeping coach Vincent or not we should go to the play offs easy.

I think starting Mcinnis cost us more games than any other reason this past year. We played 500 ball after we let him go . I think next year is much brighter than any of us think.

Dav7z: I hope we don't have to find out whether you are right or not. For now, Bonnell has said this in his Observations:

"Coach Sam Vincent acknowledged this hasn't been easy for Felton, but he says he's still convinced there are advantages to pairing Felton with another point guard."

If we keep Sam, it will be best for the team if MJ waives all players capable of playing PG alongside Felton.

[dnbman]

I don't really mind playing Felton as a SG, given that he basically plays the position like he plays pg, only running off the ball more. Call Rose a pg and put Felton in at SG for spells, and I'd be perfectly content.

However, putting in driftwood at pg and hoping that Felton thrives at the 2 is/was a horrible mistake. Felton can be a more Tony Parker-esque version of Barbosa. But, he better have a great pg beside him if we do that.

I think he also needs to become better at running the offense first before trying to constantly switch him. He needs to play through adversity and figure out how to make it work.

My biggest problem with Vincent was actually how quickly he would yank Felton from the pg spot-- putting him on the bench or switching him to the 2-- early in the season. That had to hurt his confidence at playing the position. Of course, you have to pull guys if they're not doing what they're supposed to do. But you don't pull a guy five minutes into the first because he commits a TO or makes a stupid foul.

But, really. How much of this is new. It's Felton.

I'll just say this: next year should be the make or break year for Felton. His skill set will be great enough to justify a trade if we go ahead and give him a long term contract. He may not be our pg, but someone will love to have him. So, I don't mind signing him. He's shown me enough this last month to make me believe he can be our starting pg. However, if he doesn't prove it next year, he needs to be traded.

[dav7z]

Felton is a 18 and 11 guy shooting about 45 percent.
Given the chance to prove it . His last three games was a solid 18 and 12 shooting around 48 percent.
If we add a P/F , Get a decent draft pick , The return of May and Morrison. and finish the roster with solid fillers.
We will be a top 4 seat in the east.And everbody will be saying coach Vincent is the greatest thing since sliced bread.