Reply With QuoteWell, I respect your opinion, but I disagree with everything you said except Beasley being at the top of the list. After that, I think your wrong, but time will tell.
Weak Draft
When you break down the numbers this is a pretty weak draft.
Two players obviously stand head and shoulders above the rest.
Beasley and Love.
Rose did show a big improvement in the 2nd half of the season but until then he looked like a marginal prospect. His shooting will prevent him from becoming a star but he could be productive.
Mayo will be a gunner. He also showed a lot of improvement over the year but his age is clouding peoples judgement. He will score a lot of points on some bad/average teams. Woohoo.
Bayless is a good shooter but his rebounding, turnovers, and steals paint him as an average NBA player.
Speights, Dorsey, and Lofton all look like good prospects.
Gordon, Westbrook, Augustin, and Randolph all look like garbage.
Westbrook has hope though since he's a good defender. He is just learning the position and isn't ready for the NBA yet but maybe he will develop.
Lopez grades out pretty blah but the Bobcats need size at any cost. Hibbert had a blah year but actually grades out pretty decent because of the previous year. But man is he slow.
Last edited by boobcats; 06-19-2008 at 04:11 PM. Reason: a
Well, I respect your opinion, but I disagree with everything you said except Beasley being at the top of the list. After that, I think your wrong, but time will tell.
I think it is impossible to tell how a draft class will turn out before any of the players have even played on the NBA level. Its a different game, and college numbers really dont mean that much in the NBA.
I have heard similar opinions to yours though
Boris "Watch as I pass up a completely open shot" Diaw
Love is in no way the 2nd best pick in the draft. Just not even possible.
This is my first time posting on this forum, although I have visited this site frequently the past few months, finally glad I have time to post my opinions! I happen to agree with MattD, it is impossible in any sport to determine the ability of a draft class before they play. There are so many differing factors between the college and professional game that it's impossible to tell how the player will adjust.... that being said, I feel that this draft class will have more of an overall impact than the rookies this year did...
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Welcome to BobcatsPlanet Spartan.Originally Posted by Spartan09
When we look back 5 years from now, I think we'll all agree that this was a strong draft class. In my opinion there will be several solid players that will be picked up in the late 20s well into the 2nd round ( Bill Walker, Joey Dorsey and those types )
Spartan, welcome to BobcatsPlanet! Look forward to your posts and discussing the Bobcats and NBA in general with you!
Nothing I stated was really my opinion it's all just based on statistical analysis except for the comment about Westbrook.
And it's certainly possible that Love is the 2nd best pick in the draft. He's light years ahead of everyone else (sans Beasley) in WoW and in Hollinger's ratings. Flat out, his grades are difficult to overlook.
Kevin Love: 10.1 PAWS/40
Purely on the numbers, Love makes a solid case as the top 2008 draft prospect. While Beasley sports a higher 10.9 PAWS/40, Love bests him when either adjusting for pace or competition.
Also, as described in the Wages of Wins, there are diminishing returns in basketball. In other words, having many good players on a team can understate the statistical quality of an individual player. This means that if Michael Beasley went to Kansas rather than Kansas State, his PAWS/40 would likely not have been as high.
Given this information, Kevin Love looks even better in comparison, as UCLA is loaded with projected NBA talent, and Kansas State is devoid of it.
Will Kevin Love become a better player than Derrick Rose and Michael Beasley? The question is certainly intriguing, but given these players projected draft value, Kevin Love seems to be quite underrated and certainly a draft value whenever he comes off the board.
Last edited by boobcats; 06-19-2008 at 08:42 PM. Reason: a
I know Hollinger draws pretty good correlations with his ratings, but I don't think the ratings apply as much when you're talking about freshmen, which many of the prospects are. You're basically talking about a time where boys are turning into men. So much can change physically and mentally between 18 and 22 that I don't think one year of college stats is enough to predict how a college player will contribute at the next level. 3-4 years gives you a much better idea.
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