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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNC View Post
    I'd do either one...since I've come to believe Harden is the real deal for SG in this draft...just so we don't hurt ourselves...but enough good PGs to still get a back up at 25...
    The beautiful thing is, I believe both Rubio and Harden will be available with the #3 selection. If we trade Mek, we can take Harden and use the 25 on a big.

    Or

    If we trade DJ we could take Rubio and use the 25 to take someone like Ellington, or make a package with our 3 remaining picks and get back into the lottery and take Williams or Henderson.


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    It would be an interesting dilemma...then we'd all have to hold our collective breathes and hope the FO could say (at least one) right name on draft night...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swedd523 View Post
    Why are we even considering that trade?

    Collison + 3 + 25 for Mek + 12?

    Really?

    This is a no brainer guys. GET IT DONE!

    Hell I'd do Collison/Kristic + 3 for DJ and the 12 and be fine too.
    No, no, no. They weren't even asking for the #12!!

    So we would have the #3, #12 AND the #25!!

    It's a very sweet deal IMO.

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    So we would have the #3, #12 AND the #25 PLUS #40, #54
    This would be ideal:
    With the #3 pick the Charlotte Bobcats select: Rubio/Harden
    #12: I believe someone will drop..i think we might have a chance at Hill, Derozan, Evans, and Jennings. I would go with Hill if he dropped.
    #25: I know this might suprise some people, but I would go with Dionte Christmas.
    Trade #40 and #45..move into the 1st round..pick: T-wILliams
    This would be a WIN situation for the Bobcats!!
    Harden
    Hill
    Christmas
    T-Will
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Slam View Post
    No, no, no. They weren't even asking for the #12!!

    So we would have the #3, #12 AND the #25!!

    It's a very sweet deal IMO.
    If this happened, they would give MJ the Executive of the Year Award already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohara831 View Post
    If this happened, they would give MJ the Executive of the Year Award already.
    I would dance naked in the streets outside the Cable Box. They can keep the 25. I'll take Rubio/Harden and capspace. THANK YOU COME AGAIN


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swedd523 View Post
    I would dance naked in the streets outside the Cable Box. They can keep the 25. I'll take Rubio/Harden and capspace. THANK YOU COME AGAIN


    You could at least pick a less populated area

    But I agree, that's a beutiful deal, and if we pulled that off, (which Presti won't do), I'd forgive MJ for anything he ever did (like AmMo and Gana)

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    This idea (trade) will just not go away (I've tried to make it all day)...I've played with all the trade machines etc. I could think of and a trade of EO50 to OKC with Collison coming back gives me "you must cut 1.5 million from OKC coming in"...fine with me...so question...

    OKC has a 1.9 million trade exception and we have two trade exceptions of .97 and 1.2 million...I can't make it work with OKC but with Memphis (if we take Jaric who then becomes a 7.1 expiring) it would work...doubt their owner would have any interest in taking on EO50s salary though....
    Last edited by BRNC; 06-14-2009 at 12:35 AM. Reason: addition...

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    Mek's BYC status is most likely mucking it up, and OKC isn't under the cap enough to absorb the difference. Here's the kicker though; 7 days after the draft OKC suddenly has loads of cap.

    On draft night Stern says "OKC trades the 3rd and the 25th to Charlotte for future considerations". We then make the player swap on July 1st.

    I don't think you can combine the TPE's can you?
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    spectre...I spent about an hour re-reading player trade exceptions yesterday and it seems to indicate they they can be used together (conditionally as with every frigging thing with the NBA)...

    Either trade (for us) that I tried (EO50 to OKC for Collison and picks...EO50 to Memphis for Jaric and picks) will work for us...I don't know if one or both of our exceptions were used (I'm sure that at least one was)...

    The OKC came back (even with their 1.9 million exception) saying another 1.5 million had to be cut...

    They have a boat-load coming off and your idea (finishing a deal) on July first would work...but I'm starting to think given questions about Thabeet (even I think EO50 is tougher...by a long shot) Memphis may go in a different directions...

    Given Rajas' age and injuries lasy year we might be better off with Jaric ...

    PG: Felton, Augustin, Jaric,#12 pick
    SG: Bell, Harden, Jaric
    SF: Crash, Vlad, Jaric
    PF: Diaw, Vlad, #27 pick
    C: Nazr, Diop

    We'd be able to play Lexy in NBADL (which I think he desperately needs...as well as #12 PG pick or the #27 PF pick if needed)...I left off J. Howard (although I'm not opposed bringing him back for a year) since there are strong indications most teams will go with 14 players...if we made either trade...and did not renew anyone other than Felton we'd be at 14 players...but we'd also have a starter and a back-up vet at every position...

    I could live with this team...I think we'd go to the playoffs for sure...it would also give another year to evaluate Ray and see if he can take the next step (and give us a third talented PG from this draft)...We did not draft Roy (and even I knew he was a better pick than Morrison) and I'd rather we did not make this same mistake again...we need to try and get Harden...if we can do this is also gives us a deep bench and team (which we did not have last season) this assumes one of these two trades can be done...

    I think EO50 would help either of those teams...and we have his salary (basically) invested in Nazr and Diop...I'd like to use that money...I honestly thing we could get the same numbers (at the end of the year) from Nazr and Diop...it will just take both to produce them...
    Last edited by BRNC; 06-14-2009 at 12:21 PM.


 

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