The Conspiracies/politics thread
It's been 8 yrs since this horrible attack on our country. Not one person has been held responsible for the greatest failure of homeland defense in our history. It seems to me we have just let this past into memory. Now some of you might not believe that our government could do something like this, But thats far from being true if you've read any history book. Laws have been broken, Innocent people are being killed and our rights have slowly been stolen from us. If you have a free hour watch these movies. We as a country can't allow our so called leaders to continue to treat us like retarded sheep that just follow whatever they say....
Educate yourself....This country belongs to the people not the Super Rich & Powerful!!!!
Can't say i have a free hour, but 9/11 was caused by extremist muslims who hate america and some people in power who didnt think it could happen. I cant speak to whats in the video but if you truly believe that anyone other than the Taliban wanted 9/11 to happen, then I can't understand your logic
tbh i was thinking i'd see the mos def/immortal technique song ITT
You might not have time to watch the video but there and 100's of books that have been written since the attacks.Originally Posted by teej
How's is it guy's in a cave can attack the strongest country in the world and their leaders get away? Bin Laden still hasn't been caught. How is it four planes can be high jacked and NONE, not a single plane is sent to intercept them till 80 mins after they were high jacked? That has never happened before, If your plane is of course for more then ten minutes they send Jets out to see whats wrong. How is it three buildings fall to the ground? When that also has never ever happened in the history of buildings. The towers were built with the idea a plane may hit them. Fire doesn't cause a building to fall straight down pancaking every level. Why did the Bush Admin. Try to stop the probe into what happened on 9-11.
Simple questions, Can you answer them? If not don't believe everything you see on the news. I promise you I can personally convince you this was a inside job...I promise.
First off, airport security was lax in 2001 and before, so high-jacking the planes is not an obstacle. we had no concrete evidence in any form that they were going to do anything. As far as getting people up there, the airlines had issues in getting to the govt and their communcation wasnt great from what i recall, but dont quote me on that. And courses arent pre-set totally, just generally, and they dont send jets after 10 minutes unless they suspect somethings wrong. And you cant fly jets in NYC, and we wouldnt have shot the planes down prior to that anyway. As far as buildings, I know my physics (just ask the state of NC) so I can tell you that When theres enough heat (like from jet fuel exploding) anything will become structurally weak, and in this case it was enough. As far as built in mind of plane crashes, they were thinking more of the type of '92, not airliners. Bush tried to stop the probe because he knew that would make his reasons for fighting his wars illegitimate, not because its a cover up. Could they have prevented it? Yes, but it wasnt going to happen becasue we didnt "need" any govt protection.
I'm guessing you also believe in the Kennedy conspiracy theories, and that we were never on the moon
That stuff i have in bold print isn't true. They had alot of prior warning. Other countries even told us something big was going to happen. Bush got a report stating "Bin Laden Determined to attack inside the US" He ignored it. The fire you speak of wasn't hot enough and didn't burn long enough to melt the steal enough to make the buildings fall. The fire lasted about a hour...there have been buildings have burned for 20 hrs and didn't fall. The buildings were made to be able to take the biggest plane at the time Bowing 808 a bigger plane then what hit the towers. Yes, I believe in the Kennedy Cover up but not the fake Moon landingFirst off, airport security was lax in 2001 and before, so high-jacking the planes is not an obstacle. we had no concrete evidence in any form that they were going to do anything. As far as getting people up there, the airlines had issues in getting to the govt and their communcation wasnt great from what i recall, but dont quote me on that. And courses arent pre-set totally, just generally, and they dont send jets after 10 minutes unless they suspect somethings wrong. And you cant fly jets in NYC, and we wouldnt have shot the planes down prior to that anyway. As far as buildings, I know my physics (just ask the state of NC) so I can tell you that When theres enough heat (like from jet fuel exploding) anything will become structurally weak, and in this case it was enough. As far as built in mind of plane crashes, they were thinking more of the type of '92, not airliners. Bush tried to stop the probe because he knew that would make his reasons for fighting his wars illegitimate, not because its a cover up. Could they have prevented it? Yes, but it wasnt going to happen becasue we didnt "need" any govt protection.
I'm guessing you also believe in the Kennedy conspiracy theories, and that we were never on the moon
BTW...A plane hit the Pentagon too supposely...Same type of plane...Why didn't that building fall down? WTC 7 Fell down and No plane at all hit it...What made it fall...Fire on two floors? Dont have to believe me but people much smarter then me with multiple degree's and training in this stuff say it's impossible for those buildings to have fallen.
Last edited by Ghost Kat; 02-28-2009 at 03:34 AM.
The firm I used to work for actually compiled the report on why the buildings went down. To make a long story short (and that report was huge) it was the fire. The steel wasn't designed to handle that much heat.The towers were built with the idea a plane may hit them. Fire doesn't cause a building to fall straight down pancaking every level.
The pentagon is a totally different type of structure than the WTC (how high is it...like 2-3 stories?). I'd have to look it up, but that plane did penetrate thru a couple of walls when it hit.
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I forgot this one...You know the war started after 9-11 right? They atarted this so called investigation about a year or more before we sent the first troops to Iraq. The Bush family has been in business with the Bin Laden family for a long time..Maybe not Osama himself but his brothers and father ...cousins too maybe. This is all documented, Not something i just made up.
I said nothing about prior warning, I said concrete evidence. You can't do anything to stop an event if you only know THAT it is happeningThat stuff i have in bold print isn't true. They had alot of prior warning. Other countries even told us something big was going to happen. Bush got a report stating "Bin Laden Determined to attack inside the US" He ignored it. The fire you speak of wasn't hot enough and didn't burn long enough to melt the steal enough to make the buildings fall. The fire lasted about a hour...there have been buildings have burned for 20 hrs and didn't fall. The buildings were made to be able to take the biggest plane at the time Bowing 808 a bigger plane then what hit the towers. Yes, I believe in the Kennedy Cover up but not the Moon landing
BTW...A plane hit the Pentagon too supposely...Same type of plane...Why didn't that building fall down? WTC 7 Fell down and No plane at all hit it...What made it fall...Fire on two floors?
As far as the fires, heat intensity and strength have more to do with structural integrity than time. If you light a match for 5 minutes or a bonfire for 30 seconds which is more powerful? You have to accept the Physics of it, but you can't do that unless you study it well. I don't know whether you never took Physics, or slept through it, but trust me on that one.
Which Kennedy story do you believe?
Yes I know, and his reasons for starting the war were immoral at best, unconstitutional at worst, and he didn't want people sifting through his files telling them as much
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