Boards and turnovers

[dav7z]

Does the 26th take pace into account?

That's why I think "per 100 possessions" would mean more.

I agree pace should factor some but should not by any means should be the key factor in addressing our teams lack of rebounding. Brown is addressing this as a key factor . Then i assume its a problem.

If we look at where we can inprove
Diop is a disapointment for his size
Nazz is average at best on boards
Lexy i feel has the most up side in this area
Radman doesn't seem instrested in mixing it up much
TC will hit the boards well and mix it up on the glass
Wallace boards very well and mixes it up . Our best rebounder
Diop is very soft on the boards and don't like to mix it up. Though he has the lynth and ability to board.
Brown . shows flashes , If he attacks the boards harder he could board well.
Henderson can get up ,mix it up , and should be very good on the boards

I feel Radman, Diop, and Diaw , need the most work in this area?

Going with a big line up helps more than any thing in this area.
If Boris or Wallace moves to two Those two can switch on the pick with ease.
Both Wallace and Boris can both post up more with smaller defenders. This mis match along is worth the change

TC and Lexy can both defend the rim on the pick all so . Both can challange the shot leaving the other to hit the board. Leaving only Felton or DJ to fight through the pick . But with the lynth of TC and Lexy recovery should be much easyer.
Position rebounding should be much better .

Resorting to a small back court causes us so many more disadvantages.

DJ , Henderson , Nazz , Bell off the beanch going with only a nine man rotation
Nazz backing up both TC and Lexy
Henderson backing up at s/g to give Boris and Wallace a rest
DJ backing up only Felton
Bell to stop a hot hand at the two or three position.
Only spot play for the rest of the team

[spectre]

Nah, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Pace was the reason we were 26th in total boards. If you adjust the number for pace we end up being a lot better than that.

Example: Steven Jackson pulls in 8 boards a season & Crash also pulls in 8 boards a season. Are they equal rebounders or is one better?

Answer: Crash easily. Since GSW is a much faster paced team there are more boards to be had. Per 100 possessions puts the teams on a more equal footing...and in that respect we're at least average in rebounding.

The only thing that's changed is Mek for TC and at worst we lose 1-2 boards a game assuming TC stays healthy.

LB was complaining about the boards in preseason, and rightfully so. Boris vs. the Griz had ONE board in 33 minutes; last season he averaged 6 in 37 minutes. The backups are sucking, but as we've noted the backups always have sucked.

If you haven't noticed LB has certain things that are important for bigs to do. Until they're at least decent at it he's going to beat on them like a drum.

[spectre]

BTW...Boris does something else that doesn't show up in the rebounding stat line but is just as important.

That would be blocking out.

[dav7z]

Nah, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

Pace was the reason we were 26th in total boards. If you adjust the number for pace we end up being a lot better than that.

Example: Steven Jackson pulls in 8 boards a season & Crash also pulls in 8 boards a season. Are they equal rebounders or is one better?

Answer: Crash easily. Since GSW is a much faster paced team there are more boards to be had. Per 100 possessions puts the teams on a more equal footing...and in that respect we're at least average in rebounding.

The only thing that's changed is Mek for TC and at worst we lose 1-2 boards a game assuming TC stays healthy.

LB was complaining about the boards in preseason, and rightfully so. Boris vs. the Griz had ONE board in 33 minutes; last season he averaged 6 in 37 minutes. The backups are sucking, but as we've noted the backups always have sucked.

If you haven't noticed LB has certain things that are important for bigs to do. Until they're at least decent at it he's going to beat on them like a drum.

I agree with your reasoning and its not as bad as it looks due to pace.

But staying away from a small back court[DJ and Felton] is a key factor.
All so going big helps our position rebounding . Its much easer to switch. All so it allows our two and three to have a big advantage posting up. With TC and Lex we can pull both bigs away from the basket alowing Wallace and Diaw to work.

Does any one else not agree going big has advanteges in our offenceas well as rebounding

Spectre your thoughts on going big.

[dav7z]

BTW...Boris does something else that doesn't show up in the rebounding stat line but is just as important.

That would be blocking out.

LOL When did you see Boris block out i havn't at the cable box.

[spectre]

LOL When did you see Boris block out i havn't at the cable box.

Maybe what I remember was an accident on Boris' part?

I'm not big on gimmicks, that's why I said I'd prefer Hendo starting even though he's probably not ready. IMO he stands the best chance of filling the role we need at the 2 (strong defender, passer, scorer) vs. someone like Flip who I think is going to be very shot happy or DJ who I think will be a huge liability defensively at both the 1 & the 2.

I think Diaw is too slow to guard most 3s...I can't comprehend him trying to stay with guys like Kobe.

[dav7z]

I love Hendo, s game . But i think we board better with Lexy , Have more mismatches , Score better starting Lexy at the four. I don't see it as a gemic Boris can't guard a Kobe but Wallace would do ok , With Lexy and TC we should be able to stop so much dribble penatration.


What position do you see Lexy playing?
What do you think is Diaws best position is ? To me hes not perfect at any position but can play four. I can see why the Suns had him coming off the beanch .

[teej]

In S.I.'s NBA preview edition, part of their scouting report for each team was to ask another team's scout to talk about each team. For the 'Cats, the scout said this

Boris Diaw was without a doubt their team MVP...

We want that to come off the bench? No. He does way to much on the offensive end, and man-to-man defensively. No way Lexy is ready to start 82 games, either.

dav, LB needs something to whine about. TC is a better rebounder than Mek, and I fully expect him to average a double-double if healthy. Diaw should get 6 boards pg again, and Crash should get about seven. For our pace of play, that's huge. Like I said, I'm not concerned about that.

TO"s, with Boris you're going to get them because of the way he makes plays, and he make's great plays. But it's the other guys who have high TO numbers that we need to cut down on.

[davcbow]

In preseason.... our turn overs hurt us alot... *= 8 games

Radmanovic had 25*
DJ had 19*
Felts and Wallace had 17*
Graham had 16*
Diaw had 12 in 4 games
Bell had 10 in 6 games
Nazr had 9*
Ajinca had 8 in 6 games
Brown and Henderson had 7 in 7 games

The rest had 5 or less but thats a shit load of turn overs (171 total in 8 games)(21+ per game ave)....

[KT#20]

Not surprising considering we traded for an inferior rebounder and a turnover machine.