The Official "Fire Larry Brown" thread

[GeraldWalrus]

Seriously. This is moronic. Your point guards are playing like shit, you have a point guard on reserves, so what do you do? Keep him on reserves. Tonight, Nazr had 8 points in the first half, so what do you do? Don't play him the second half. Gerald Wallace is a tremendous inside player and banger and what do you do? Try to make him take jumpshots. You have a player who averaged a double double the past 4 years, and would make for one of the best banger power forwards in the leauge, so what do you do? Get him a decent center who can rebound? Nope, trade him off for an injury prone guy who hasn't played ball in forever and was only talented when he had a real point guard facilitating him.

Seriously. He's an idiot. I don't care about his past accolades and his NBA rings. It's been over a year, and we are in the same place as we were with Bernie and the dreaded Ham Biscuit. Go get Avery Johnson. Or fuck Jordan, since your such a smart guy off the court and in teaching, coach the goddamn team yourself. Stop sucking the dick of every UNC product that ever exsisted. We have the goddamn talent, I'm sure of it. But constant stupid ass decisions are holding us back.

Your thoughts?

[teej]

Every player seems to have lost their confidence. I don't know where to place the blame but LB. We have the talent to make the playoffs, we showed that last year, so it's time to make a change.

Dave Hanners would likely make a good coach in the interim. He might even work out long term.

Avery Johnson (ESPN)
Byron Scott
Jeff Van Gundy (ESPN)
Maurice Cheeks (Asst. in OKC)
Mike Fratello (NBC/TNT/YES)
Paul Silas
Sam....Mitchell (was hired by the 'Cats in '04 before taking the Raps job)

And my dark horse...Stephanie Ready.

[GeraldWalrus]

I would crap my pants for Jeff Van Gundy. That dude can coach. Plus he is very funny.

[Chrystos]

Can Avery Johnson coach us ?

[GeraldWalrus]

We need a coach who isn't an old man and who has a backbone. If a player is playing like shit (Raymond Felton) you sit his ass on the bench. If someone is playing good (Nazr) you play them. It's simple basketball. Keep your 439092308 plays you have, because it obviously doesn't work for shit. Larry Brown wants to play a style of basketball that just doesn't work anymore. You struck magic in the Pistons and the 76ers. But how many times did you fail? I mean, your last coaching job went great didn't it? You turned that New York franchise right around.

[KT#20]

IDK where blame lies for the personnel moves we've made, but obviously he has a lot of say in it. That upsets me more than his coaching right now. Thinking about what's happened to this team over the course of one year WRT personnel moves makes me disappointed. At least I could look at our roster before and say, "Well, we have some very good pieces to build around and a couple of average to slightly above average ones." Now, I can't really say that. Felton and Augustin have just sucked (average to slightly above average ones), Richardson and Okafor are gone, and Wallace looks like he wants out of Charlotte.

The Diop trade was a disaster, and the Vlad trade was a shortsighted solution. However, I could look past both of those until we sent Mek to NOLA for TC. Deep down, I would hope LB wasn't stupid enough to ask for a Okafor/Chandler trade, and for a while I believed he wasn't. However, when this team made the move for Jackson, it made me awfully suspicious who was behind that deal. Was it really Bob Johnson worrying about his money? Or was it LB making just another ridiculous trade?

IDK how much of an impact the departure of Okafor has had on Felton and Augustin, but it's there, that's for sure. Maybe Felton and Augustin need to take the court together, like last season.

[Chrystos]

IDK where blame lies for the personnel moves we've made, but obviously he has a lot of say in it. That upsets me more than his coaching right now. Thinking about what's happened to this team over the course of one year WRT personnel moves makes me disappointed. At least I could look at our roster before and say, "Well, we have some very good pieces to build around and a couple of average to slightly above average ones." Now, I can't really say that. Felton and Augustin have just sucked (average to slightly above average ones), Richardson and Okafor are gone, and Wallace looks like he wants out of Charlotte.

The Diop trade was a disaster, and the Vlad trade was a shortsighted solution. However, I could look past both of those until we sent Mek to NOLA for TC. Deep down, I would hope LB wasn't stupid enough to ask for a Okafor/Chandler trade, and for a while I believed he wasn't. However, when this team made the move for Jackson, it made me awfully suspicious who was behind that deal. Was it really Bob Johnson worrying about his money? Or was it LB making just another ridiculous trade?

IDK how much of an impact the departure of Okafor has had on Felton and Augustin, but it's there, that's for sure. Maybe Felton and Augustin need to take the court together, like last season.

Hey the Sjax trade was good and you Know it

[polarcat]

i'm not ready to fire lb yet, but my "ILBIT" mentality has definitely shifted to an on the fence feeling. i don't like how dj, lexy, hendo and brown have been utilized and i feel like dj is suffering the most. i think lb has gotten in his head and he is not just playing basketball. it's hard to be at your best and excel when you are walking on egg shells, and imo, that is where dj is. it doesn't mean he's weak-minded nor a bad nba player. it's got to be hard transitioning from the college level to the nba and an enigmatic coach like brown doesn't make it easy. i've barely seen henderson in there and why play crash at the 4 more than brown getting burn. i'm not saying these guys should start, but come on, they deserve way more minutes. outside of the steven jackson trade and the diaw/bell trade, i don't like the personnel decisions being made in trades and drafting, and we all know brown has a big say in who plays in the queen city and who doesn't. only time will tell, but brown's honeymoon time is over and now the success that follows his outspoken ways needs to catch up to the miscues.

[Marvel]

I would say LB's system is the problem here and we all know it we just hope it would eventually come around sooner or later well guess what folks .............................IT AIN'T.The departure of Okafor is huge with TC only getting 22 minutes of burn and is already suffering back problems.If TC could give us 30 minutes at least we wouldn't be so bad and i truly believe that.The slow pace system is not working for our guards i think S-Jax should be our LeBron James and he should run our offense more with Diaw.Get Diaw and S-Jax running pick n pops more often why not Diaw is a great mid range shooter and Jackson is a great passer,with Wallace making cuts to the basket if Diaw's shot's not there he can also pass to a cutting Gerald Wallace.The thing with LB is his system is based around pgs which is not a bad thing but with Felton it is.
Something has to give.............the "Tipping Point" is just around the corner.
So in saying that i think the problem here is LB..........sad but true.Ok and Felton and TC.I also think signing Flip Murray was a bad move why draft Hendo in the first place............that is on LB.If he had given DJ the minutes he was getting last season we would have been alright with Hendo and DJ...........i truly believe that also.The Gana trade......................what can i say about that i mean that was a FUCKING terrible trade and that is on LB.We had no backup 2 guard for Raja when he went out we already had Nazr as Okafor's backup..................FUCKING TERRIBLE TRADE.Maybe just maybe we would have juuuust snuck into the playoffs last season had we kept Matt Carroll.Now we're stuck with Gana and his ugly contract for the next 4 years.Anywho this team stinks BAD the blame has to go somewhere for a team that looked so promising last season.

[TheBeagle]

Damn, well, most all know how I feel about Larry and the job he's done this year, but I don't know if firing is the answer. Sad thing is, I think most of y'all make convincing arguments that he SHOULD be.

So, I don't know; I've long since thrown away the ILBIT mantra, but I dont' think I'm quite ready to join the opposite mantra either.

Yeesh. Just some ugly times and dark days (in a Bobcats basketball context, of course) that don't show any signs of getting better...